I'll throw in my experience. I went to PennApps Jan 2013 after I learned some HTML, CSS, and javascript with some new friends I made. While we didn't associate with Michigan Hackers, we saw the rise of the facebook group, and their "recruiting efforts". They killed it. Fun stuff on the diag(the quad), awesome hack nights. It was sort of a focal point - a bright light to hacker moths, who were always around, but didn't have a community. Mhacks is definitely a force to be reckoned with, and a large part of my first steps towards software development.<p>Also, MPowered is our university entrepreneurship club. In my experience with them, it is mostly filled with business people trying to find software guys to build their stuff for them. However, apparently there is an incubator that has most of the people that actually build, but I never saw them too much.<p>Go Blue! Can't wait to see what they will do next year.