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Ask HN: The government has been exposed now what?

16 点作者 esalazar将近 12 年前
We now know that our rights and privacy are being violated. What are the next steps? How do we protect and defend ourselves?

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tokenadult将近 12 年前
There is a model for people winning freedom when they never had it before. It has been applied in some countries. It takes courage and solidarity, but people power can gain freedom. The most thoughtful writer on the model that works is Gene Glass of the Albert Einstein Institute. The institute has several different publications available for free download in multiple languages,<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aeinstein.org&#x2F;organizationsde07.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aeinstein.org&#x2F;organizationsde07.html</a><p>among which I especially recommend <i>From Dictatorship to Democracy: A Conceptual Framework for Liberation</i><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aeinstein.org&#x2F;organizations&#x2F;org&#x2F;FDTD.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aeinstein.org&#x2F;organizations&#x2F;org&#x2F;FDTD.pdf</a><p>as a how-to guide for gaining freedom even when the dictators are willing to torture and kill to limit freedom. (I have seen one country make a successful transition from dictatorship to democracy largely by following this conceptual framework.)
ixacto将近 12 年前
You can fight and win. The government is not omnipotent. Just don&#x27;t expect to run a company under the protection of the government.<p>1. Use Linux or a similar OS and use full-disk encryption. Truecrypt has a hidden os function built in (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.truecrypt.org&#x2F;docs&#x2F;?s=hidden-operating-system" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.truecrypt.org&#x2F;docs&#x2F;?s=hidden-operating-system</a>). Maybe the government knows how to crack it, but they won&#x27;t for bring it out for minor things like kiddy porn, drug trafficking, lone-wolf terrorists. The only time this gets used is when there is a suitcase nuke en-route to DC.<p>2. The USA lost in Vietnam. The USA&#x2F;British Empire&#x2F;USSR have lost in Afghanistan. With the support of the local population, the army is useless to stop revolutionaries.<p>The population is not going to care about government crimes until the government is shooting people&#x2F;turns off cellphones&amp;tv&amp;internet. When that happens you have what happened in the Middle East and might happen in Turkey.
joonix将近 12 年前
What most people are missing here is that the average American a) doesn&#x27;t care b) doesn&#x27;t actually know what their rights are c) is happy to allow this in the name of &quot;anti-terrorism.&quot;<p>Seriously, step away from the internet&#x2F;reddit&#x2F;HN&#x2F;blogs and go out on the street and talk to an average Joe&#x2F;Jane about where this ranks on their priorities.<p>People who think there will be a &quot;revolution&quot; over something like this are seriously misguided. Revolutions happen when people are <i>hungry.</i> The average American is <i>not</i> starving and will never be rioting in the streets over phone records.
Duhveed将近 12 年前
They&#x27;ve got the will and the power to do these things and frankly there&#x27;s probably not much we can do about it. The key thing to do is to realize that the Constitution was the mistake that gave them their power. When they collapse under their own weight, remember the lesson and start listening to the folks with the ideas about how to provide services to the community (roads, security, etc.) without a government to manage it and without waiving your property rights in the process.
kunai将近 12 年前
We cannot. Ultimately, it boils down to the sheer audacity of the government and the fearful (and sometimes, falsely patriotic) apathy of our fellow citizens. We here on Hacker News are progessives who believe in liberty, freedom, choice, and equality for everyone.<p>Unfortunately, outside of our little bubble here online, the rest of the world is not the same. There are still millions of citizens, blissfully unaware, perhaps due to either ignorance or fear. Our job now is to educate these people and teach them that the government is an entity to be trusted no longer. No longer will elections entail cheering on corrupt candidates who break promises regardless of the political side they take. No longer will our citizens stand helpless as the entrenchment of totalitarianism continues perpetually. No longer will we be a slave to the whims and fancies of our government.<p>It&#x27;s time the government worked for <i>us</i>. I think the bozos in command have all but forgotten that they are nothing but <i>LOWLY</i> <i>SERVANTS</i>, not saints who can deliver promises and change set upon a lie. We need to change that. Call your senator. Email your legislature. Tell them your utter dissatisfaction with this issue. Tell your relatives. If they say they don&#x27;t care, follow them around everything they do and ask if they like that. If they don&#x27;t, tell them this is what the government is secretly doing. If they still don&#x27;t, repeat.<p>Tell your friends, your relatives, your brothers and sisters, to stand up to the oppressive government. Don&#x27;t be hotheaded; now is not the time for mercurial emotion. Now is the time for reason. If your congresspeople cooperate, good. If they brush you off, say &quot;fuck you&quot; and hang up (I&#x27;m being blunt here), and vote for a third-party candidate the next time round.<p>We can make a difference. We will defeat the Empire, the evil, dark Empire founded by a father whose progeny has gone to the dark side.<p>Let&#x27;s do this shit.
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