Government likely to open criminal probe into NSA leaks

If the government hasn&#x27;t done anything wrong, then they shouldn&#x27;t have anything to hide from us :)<p>More seriously, some amount of surveillance is probably necessary, but they need to be a lot more open and transparent about it. Secret laws and secret courts are not the stuff a free society is made of.

So which is it? Is he &quot;welcoming a debate over spying on Americans&quot; or is he prosecuting the whistleblowers (again) and requesting state privileges to protect themselves against further scrutiny? I don&#x27;t think the two can really co-exist. And if all of this was &quot;already known&quot; what&#x27;s there to prosecute then? The amount of double-speak from the Obama administration astonishes me.

Greenwald replies to a Twitter user asking &quot;when do we see the full redacted deck?&quot; &quot;@markskogan @nycsouthpaw You won&#x27;t - it contains very specific technical NSA means for collection - we&#x27;d probably be prosecuted if we did.&quot; - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;ggreenwald&#x2F;status&#x2F;343454484917280770" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;ggreenwald&#x2F;status&#x2F;343454484917280770</a><p>Everyone should be keeping their eye on @ggreenwald&#x27;s twitter, reveals much about the debate and what&#x27;s going on with him. He gives bits and pieces of background info..

Not surprising. This is an incredibly opaque administration that&#x27;s prosecuted more whistleblowers under the espionage act than <i>every other administration combined</i>.<p>The contrast between campaign Obama and president Obama is staggering. One would not be too far off the mark in calling him a liar, as simply an objective observation. I say this as someone who campaigned for him in 2008, which I now regret immensely.

It&#x27;s incredible how the presence of the word &quot;leaks&quot; turns the whole headline from promising to sinister. Why can&#x27;t they investigate the NSA for once? Isn&#x27;t that what a democratic country would do?

&quot;The law enforcement and security officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly, said the agencies that normally conduct such investigations, including the FBI and Justice Department, were expecting a probe into the leaks to a British and an American newspaper.&quot;<p>So basically the fact the NSA leaker was going to be prosecuted was leaked, how can the the security officials who leaked this piece of information not see the irony ?

The author of the original WaPo story said yesterday that the source was expecting to be caught. &quot;I don&#x27;t even think [the source] wants to stay masked forever.&quot;<p>Good interview if this is a story you care about.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;video&#x2F;thefold&#x2F;nsa-leak-source-believes-exposure-consequences-inevitable&#x2F;2013&#x2F;06&#x2F;07&#x2F;fb15c0fe-cf94-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_video.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;video&#x2F;thefold&#x2F;nsa-leak-source-...</a>

anyone else notice there&#x27;s been none of the usual China-bashing going on ever since this whole thing broke?<p>which is funny because it should be at an all time high, what with the meeting of the Chinese president Xi and Obama.<p>maybe they&#x27;re sharing tips on how best to spy on and kill their own citizens! it is the most important economic and political bilateral relationship in the world, after all.<p>i kid, i kid.<p>but seriously, wasn&#x27;t one of the talking points of the meeting going to be Obama redressing Xi on how the Chinese hack&#x2F;spy on american companies and citizens&#x27; communications?<p>LOL x 10.

1. A small group of people violate the privacy of people everywhere around the world.<p>2. Another, even smaller group of people violate the privacy of the above group.<p>3. The first group says, &quot;Hey, trust us. It&#x27;s for your own good&quot;, and then promptly hunts down the second group for being dirty-stinking-traitor-terrorist criminals.<p>4. Profit?

Remove the power to classify long term information from the executive branch and put it into the judicial. It is obvious that it is abusing it currently with classifying everything. If they have to compelling interest to classify something that can jump at least the standard for a warrant.

This makes me wonder how we have the balls to go into other countries and yell about all their problems with surveillance &amp; censorship when we do it more &amp; arguably, better than all of them combined.

I didn&#x27;t know the WaPo story had been authored by someone working with Assange to make a documentary on WikiLeaks. That would at least explain why &quot;data directly from&quot; was misinterpreted to mean &quot;backdoor direct access&quot; since I doubt she had the training to disambiguate the terms used.<p>Not that it matters too much anyways, I&#x27;m assuming it wasn&#x27;t an OpEd and therefore she&#x27;d still have received the normal editing and source-checking services. But I do wonder if there is any reporting that was done by those who don&#x27;t hold quite as much of a bias as Poitras and Greenwald, for the same reason I would be suspicious of a history of the Iraq invasion authored by Rumsfeld...

Out of curiosity, has anyone&#x27;s opinion of Bradley Manning, Julian Assange or Wikileaks changed over the last few days?<p>From the previous times the topic has come up, my impression is that this community is more or less whether they&#x27;re doing good work or not.

I wonder how far in the future we&#x27;ll have to wait before people like Glenn Greenwald become potential drone strike targets...

What is there to investigate? The criminals has clearly been found thanks to the whistleblowers. The whistle blower is the hero while the criminals are NSA and the government for doing such acts against democracy. A democracy needs to be transparent. Otherwise it is a system that you can put no trust in.

US justice system in ‘calamitous’ collapse

I&#x27;m just hoping that Greenwald doesn&#x27;t &quot;get in a car crash.&quot;

But google, facebook and microsoft all they never heard of PRISM and no such thing exist, why would there be a criminal probe about a work of fiction?

This should give a perfect opportunity for mass protests at the trial of whoever did the leak.

Is it time to start a petition that asks that this leak not be prosecuted?

So much for not looking back and only looking forward

This was not a leak. It was a dare.

Expected, unless the leaked doc said &quot;ignore court order&quot; or &quot;kill the Presi...&quot; leaking is illegal.<p>The person that leaked this knew that he &#x2F;she would be prosecuted, if... Let&#x27;s hope that he took care not to leave any crumbs as he gave the info to the Guardian