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It is 5:40:79 Simple Universal Time - change your time thinking now

16 点作者 telmich将近 12 年前

22 条评论

gbraad将近 12 年前
Swatch Internet Time (or Beat) all over again: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Swatch_Internet_Time" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Swatch_Internet_Time</a><p>This idea was simple to understand, but didn&#x27;t catch on!
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garethadams将近 12 年前
Adopting metric time, while a neat idea, would probably have a lot of consequences for all the SI units derived[1] from the current standard &#x27;second&#x27;, no?<p>On an unrelated note, in standard gravity (1𝘨) a pendulum with length 1m will complete half an oscillation in fractionally more than 1s (~1.006s), an annoyingly close relationship for one that&#x27;s not supposed to correlate exactly.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;SI_derived_unit" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;SI_derived_unit</a>
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powatom将近 12 年前
This solves nothing - person X still has to take into consideration the daily routine of person Y on the other side of the planet. Announcing that you&#x27;re disregarding time-zones does not have the effect of making time-zones irrelevant.<p>Something like SUT is only really suitable for things which are completely independent of human behaviour (i.e scheduling automated tasks for regular intervals).
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cjg将近 12 年前
It doesn&#x27;t solve the stated aim of having to work out a good time to call someone in a different part of the world. They have the same time (no timezones), but what time of day is OK to call them? They don&#x27;t work 9-5 they work 3-11.<p>But if you think this idea is good, let&#x27;s agree on a worldwide standard for electrical outlets while we are at it? You&#x27;ve got about as much chance of that proposal succeeding.
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cabirum将近 12 年前
Won&#x27;t using UTC globally be enough?<p>Converting to decimal time will render most current time-aware devices obsolete, from wrist watches to microwaves to airport terminal software.<p>Also, scientific calculations rely on metric time[1], and need not to deal with minutes&#x2F;hours.<p>[1]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Metric_time" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Metric_time</a>
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mmcconnell1618将近 12 年前
I&#x27;m not sure why the proposal uses &quot;simple seconds&quot;, &quot;simple hours&quot; etc. We didn&#x27;t call them &quot;metric inches&quot; or &quot;metric yards&quot; but rather centimeters and meters. A new naming system will be important otherwise some people are going to be really peeved to learn their &quot;8 hour work day&quot; is a lot longer now.
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pwr将近 12 年前
Obligatory xkcd: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;927&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;xkcd.com&#x2F;927&#x2F;</a>
elros将近 12 年前
I think that it is a bad idea because these measurements are not duodecimal by accident.<p>They are quantities and notions that we use every day, extremely frequently, and the mathematical properties of duodecimal bases versus decimal are useful in this context. I think this is why these things kinda evolve towards different bases.
drinchev将近 12 年前
I can&#x27;t get the logic here. Why this switch will be helpful? Does this mean : If I live in Europe (e.g.) and the sunrise is at 3 SUT, I&#x27;ll have to go to work at around 4 SUT, but in the states the sunrise is at 7 SUT and people will go to work at 8 SUT?
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Scene_Cast2将近 12 年前
Here&#x27;s my (hopefully unique) take on this. A part of what makes analog watches beautiful is the number of hours (12) - hexagons (6 segments) and hexagon-like structures are aesthetically pleasing.<p>With SUT and its 10 hour system, clocks and watches would start looking &#x2F; be reminiscent of car wheels (most car wheels are 5 symmetrical segments [1]).<p>My knee-jerk reaction is that I&#x27;m not willing to give up hundreds of years of watch face refinement for easy math conversions.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.ca&#x2F;search?q=car+wheel&amp;tbm=isch" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.ca&#x2F;search?q=car+wheel&amp;tbm=isch</a>
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lucb1e将近 12 年前
There are so many proposals for a different, better time system. This one is actually identical to my proposal for a change to O&#x27;Harean time (it&#x27;s based on 20 hours, but for no especially good reason; I suggested changing it to 10). And I too invented my own kind of date&#x2F;timestamp, which is somewhere midway between readable for humans and computers: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lucb1e.com&#x2F;rp&#x2F;othertimes&#x2F;lucb1e-time.php" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lucb1e.com&#x2F;rp&#x2F;othertimes&#x2F;lucb1e-time.php</a>
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syncerr将近 12 年前
Can someone explain the importance of local times needing to be the same? Who cares if I go to work at 3, while you start at 5. Do we think it will force a creep of the work day&#x27;s starting and stopping time? Some of us already stay up (or get up) to deal with other parts of the world. Is it that we need to compare our bedtimes with others?<p>I actually wouldn&#x27;t mind this. None of our relatives live in the same area as us and anything that requires coordination (e.g., planning to video-chat), requires specifying a time zone.
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hawleyal将近 12 年前
Shouldn&#x27;t they use a single unit and metric prefixes, instead of hours, minutes seconds?<p>For instance, meters are always meters. Whether millimeters, centimeters, decimeters, meters, kilometers, et al.<p>SUT proposes:<p>- A day has 10 hours<p>- An hour has 100 minutes<p>- A minutes has 100 seconds<p>Instead, using using hour as the single unit.<p>1 day = 10 hours<p>1 hour = .1 day = 100 minutes = 100 centihours<p>1 minute = .01 hour = 1 centihour<p>1 second = .01 minute = .01 centihour = .0001 hour = 100 microhours
lysium将近 12 年前
I don&#x27;t think SUT fits its own motivation: instead of comparing time zones (for which numerous apps already exist), I have to compare local working times (for which no apps exist ;-).<p>Further, having seconds, minutes as multiples of 10 only makes very few things easier. Or when was the last time you had to find out how many hours are in 1234567 seconds? Did you have to do that more often than finding out how many months are in 1234567 hours?<p>Last, it totally ignores the concept of leap seconds.
joshuaheard将近 12 年前
This is a great idea. The French tried this after the Revolution. They also came up with a &quot;metric&quot; calendar: 12 months of 3 weeks of 10 days, with the extra 5 days per year (6 on leap years) being a holiday. The holiday was taken at the end of the year. Sort of like between Christmas and New Years now.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;French_Republican_Calendar" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;French_Republican_Calendar</a>
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scrumper将近 12 年前
The French tried something similar after the revolution (Decimal Time). It didn&#x27;t catch on either.<p>It&#x27;s essentially pointless. Yes, it&#x27;s a bit easier to represent times and handle them differently (5:50 = 5.5h = 550m) but it&#x27;s not that hard with standard time either, as evidenced by the fact that I and everyone else in the world managed to learn to tell the time about the same time we figured out how to tie our shoelaces.
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Xephyrous将近 12 年前
The nomenclature invites unnecessary confusion, as the terms are all already used (&quot;How many simple seconds are in an <i>actual</i> second?&quot;).<p>Why not use metric prefixes on a day to come up with the names? This requires no new definitions, just a new application of existing terminology.<p>simple hour = deciday<p>simple minute = milliday<p>simple second = 10 microdays
svckr将近 12 年前
If I travel at a constant speed of 100 km&#x2F;h (~62mph), it takes me one hour to travel 100km (~62 miles). This is not even math.<p>Do you want me to<p>a) convert between km&#x2F;h and km&#x2F;&quot;simple h&quot;<p>or<p>b) replace all tachometers, speed-limit signs and laws?<p>or<p>c) define &quot;simple km&quot; to fit?
telmich将近 12 年前
Oh, it&#x27;s 5:98:67 now - have to leave work before 6 SUT today, though usually leaving at 6:30.<p>When do you usually leave work in SUT?
drewjoh将近 12 年前
Just getting rid of DST would solve a lot of what this is trying to accomplish.
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ceautery将近 12 年前
This is much cooler than Joseph Franklin&#x27;s Metric Leisure Week proposal.
peapicker将近 12 年前
My computer just went from 3 GHz to ~2.6 Ghz... This may not fly... ;)