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LeaseWeb: Statement on former client MegaUpload

119 点作者 Hagelin将近 12 年前

10 条评论

purephase将近 12 年前
Expecting LeaseWeb to sit on these servers indefinitely without any communication with Kim is unreasonable. While what happened to MegaUpload is a travesty, expecting their hosting partners to share collateral cost&#x2F;damages is unreasonable given their other obligations.<p>As stated in the other thread, I think what LeaseWeb has done is fine and Kim should reconsider his comments. In a similar situation, I doubt he would have done otherwise.
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revelation将近 12 年前
So the local feds took 60 servers? Out of 690?<p>I can&#x27;t tell from the <i>1HU front plate</i> of a <i>generic server</i> what it&#x27;s contents are. So maybe those were the only servers they could directly implicate in transmitting copyrighted stuff? But I&#x27;m not sure you can even make that distinction (load balancers, proxys, internal networking different from outside view, ..). The charges also included racketeering and other capital crimes, so I&#x27;d imagine they could have easily taken all of these servers on that charge alone.<p>Also, the way searches work here is that the people executing them are usually not involved in the actual investigation. They call it the <i>executive arm</i> for a reason. So they usually get a broad description of what to take (<i>servers</i>), and from whom (<i>Megaupload</i>) and then take everything they can find. Police here commonly confiscates <i>displays</i> when looking for hard disks.<p>Also, why did LeaseWeb not immediately re-assign after first non-payment? What was the bet here? That MegaUpload would be able to stave off capital charges on absolutely no capital at all (initially), spanning 5+ countries?<p>From what it looks like, these servers were tainted, and should have been taken in as evidence.<p>(Whats the connection here with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eff.org&#x2F;cases&#x2F;megaupload-data-seizure" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eff.org&#x2F;cases&#x2F;megaupload-data-seizure</a> ?)
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dazbradbury将近 12 年前
Kim&#x27;s response:<p><i>Leaseweb says: &quot;After a year of nobody showing interest in servers &amp; data we considered our options.&quot; Data preservation emails say otherwise</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;KimDotcom&#x2F;status&#x2F;347417997901697024" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;KimDotcom&#x2F;status&#x2F;347417997901697024</a><p><i>Nobody should believe for a second that we haven&#x27;t tried everything to convince #Leaseweb not to delete #Megaupload user data.</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;KimDotcom&#x2F;status&#x2F;347420452462931969" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;KimDotcom&#x2F;status&#x2F;347420452462931969</a><p>They probably should have had this conversation in public first time round...
flog将近 12 年前
I consider that an excellent written response to a tricky situation. Props to them.
Nux将近 12 年前
Reasonable. Let&#x27;s see what Kim has to say to that.
nickodell将近 12 年前
Hypothetically, if Kim Dotcom found the money to run those servers, would he have been allowed to pay LeaseWeb to keep them unwiped?
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mortdeus将近 12 年前
Swap out hard drives, mail them to kim dotcom with a bill. Its a good idea anyways.
fuddle将近 12 年前
Kim called it a &quot;data massacre&quot;, he&#x27;s not one for understatement. Kim should of already had backups, he can&#x27;t expect a business to hold his leased servers without any compensation.
throwaway10001将近 12 年前
Sucks to be Kim but why should another third, seemly innocent party, have to suffer too?<p>600 servers that be leased at, say, $100 a month is $60,000 a month or $720K a year. Kim, FedGov...Jesus or whoever should pay if they want to keep the servers idle. Leaseweb had more patience than I would have had.<p>As for evidence: My guess is that the Feds have enough preserved servers to make their case. You do not need them all unless you want to file 100++ million charges. If they have 10 servers and within them they have enough data about xxx violations of the law, that&#x27;s good enough. He will be charged with them and that&#x27;s it.<p>Low blow from Kim.
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rebelde将近 12 年前
This is what they could have done to save the data:<p>- replace the hard drives<p>- start renting the servers to other people<p>- save the old hard drives just in case<p>How much would it have cost them to save the old hard drives on 600 servers? Not much.
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