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Only Nixon Harmed a Free Press More

143 点作者 teawithcarl将近 12 年前

7 条评论

sergiosgc将近 12 年前
The article is biased and, from what I gather from the comments, factually incorrect. However, the comparison with Nixon must be done, because:<p>a) Nixon and Watergate happened, so it is plausible that Administrations feel the pull towards excessive surveillance and illegal actions. I.e. It happened before so it will happen again.<p>b) If Watergate happened today, would the Administration get caught? I&#x27;d wager a sound &quot;No, it wouldn&#x27;t&quot;. With current powers and control structure, the Watergate objective could be secretly achieved, while controlled by secret courts all the while having any whistle-blower incarcerated under perfectly legal reasons.<p>Lastly, this is not a Dems vs Republicans issue. Both parties have failed. Bush set the ball rolling while Obama gladly let it roll...
DanielBMarkham将近 12 年前
This is easily much worse than Nixon. Nixon was a paranoid president with a cadre of political flunkies willing to do whatever it took for him to stay in power. Once the bozos were thrown out, that game was up.<p>This is a systemic problem, not just one president. Obama&#x27;s just the first guy really seeing how far he can push things. You can bet that the next president, no matter which party, will keep pushing.<p>This is much worse than Nixon. Nixon was a scandal. His own party deserted him. With Obama you still have millions standing by to make apologies for whatever has been done -- and whatever comes next. A very bad situation.<p>What we&#x27;re going to see now is what the world would have looked like if Nixon had gotten away with it.
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gasull将近 12 年前
tl;dr &quot;President Obama wants to make it a crime for a reporter to talk to a leaker&quot;<p>Worth reading it in full.
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tptacek将近 12 年前
Worth a read: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rcfp.org&#x2F;reporters-field-guide" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rcfp.org&#x2F;reporters-field-guide</a><p>Generally: the First Amendment protects the right to publish news, but not to gather it; when it comes to newsgathering, the law generally doesn&#x27;t favor reporters over any other kind of person. There are (according to RCFP) some jurisdiction-specific protections for newsgathering, but it&#x27;s hard to read RCFP&#x27;s guide and leave with the sense that the Constitution permits reporters to commit felonies in the interest of getting stories.<p>So, James Rosen. James Rosen (allegedly; for brevity, add &quot;allegedly&quot; mentally to everything else in this graf) received secret information from Stephen Kim, a counterproliferation analyst at LLNL. Kim passed information to Rosen about the proximity of a North Korean nuclear test. Kim&#x27;s response was that the information he shared was harmless. The DoJ&#x27;s response was that it wasn&#x27;t, and that aside from the direct details about the DPRK nuclear test, the specificity of the information shared threatened sources &amp; methods, and that regardless Kim was criminally liable for sharing top secret classified information.<p>(FAS, as always, does a great job of keeping up with the paperwork of the case: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fas.org&#x2F;sgp&#x2F;jud&#x2F;kim&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fas.org&#x2F;sgp&#x2F;jud&#x2F;kim&#x2F;</a>)<p>It&#x27;s not at all surprising to me that in a case where an analyst leaks counterproliferation data to a reporter, the DoJ would have an interest in ensuring that the reporter wasn&#x27;t an accessory to the crime of leaking the information. Simply hearing a leaked story isn&#x27;t criminal, but coaching an insider to do so is. DoJ has a valid interest in figuring out which happened with Rosen.<p>James Rosen has not been charged with any crime. Stephen Kim, the leaker, is dollars-to-donuts going to prison; his defense seems already to have conceded the leak occurred, and posits that his prosecution is political.<p>As I&#x27;ve said on other threads, I&#x27;m ambivalent about counterterrorism. When I think about it in the context of signals intelligence, I&#x27;m fine with it. When I think about it in the context of the TSA and electronic strip searches, I&#x27;m not. But this isn&#x27;t a terrorism case.<p>I am not at all ambivalent about counterproliferation. Just 40 years ago the US was locked in a standoff with an adversary with enough nuclear weapons to end life on the planet. Today, that adversary is a shambles, split into countries of varying competence and openness, any of which might have enough nuclear materiel to end a major world city. Meanwhile, the world&#x27;s most evil country has a functioning nuclear arms program and is thought to be arming dictatorships around the world for money.<p>I&#x27;m glad DoJ isn&#x27;t playing games in cases involving proliferation.
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coldcode将近 12 年前
But he paid the price. The current president will never face the same punishment.
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forgingahead将近 12 年前
Why is the title like that? The article makes it obvious the brunt of his criticism is on Obama.
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Nrsolis将近 12 年前
I&#x27;ll just leave this right here:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jfklibrary.org&#x2F;Research&#x2F;Research-Aids&#x2F;JFK-Speeches&#x2F;American-Newspaper-Publishers-Association_19610427.aspx" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.jfklibrary.org&#x2F;Research&#x2F;Research-Aids&#x2F;JFK-Speeche...</a>