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US sends pre-emptive warrant to Ireland to stop Snowden flight refuelling there

93 点作者 imc将近 12 年前

13 条评论

nicholassmith将近 12 年前
There was a funny line in The Social Network that went:<p>`Like my brother and I are in skeleton costumes chasing the Karate Kid around a gym.`<p>That&#x27;s kind of what America looks like. Snowden has all these mighty military secrets, but at the end of the day they just look like school bullies who want to smack him around. What Snowden did is without a doubt a crime, but one that seems like it was necessary, and should be easy to resolve. The longer this draws on the more America looks like a misguided bully, forcing weaker kids to pick on the nerd. It doesn&#x27;t help that the mood seems to be to string him up as a traitor in war time.<p>Edit: &#x27;easy to resolve&#x27; sounds flippant, but it&#x27;s being turned into the biggest manhunt on a global stage since Bin Laden.
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coldcode将近 12 年前
I am from the US and hope someone out there tells us to go to hell. Until there is real resistance our leaders will continue to act like they own the earth.
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hopeless将近 12 年前
Our (Irish) politicians have run away from lots of hard decisions recently but I really wish they&#x27;d have the balls (population, economy, armed forces) to tell the US government to fuck off occasionally.
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eliasmacpherson将近 12 年前
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition_by_the_United_States#Ireland" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Extraordinary_rendition_by_the...</a><p>Ah the US missed a beat, the Irish politicians would happily have him detained in Shannon and escorted on to a Hercules, by men wearing blindfolds so as not to see any evil.
k-mcgrady将近 12 年前
&gt;&gt; &quot;if he travelled via Shannon as part of his efforts to get to Cuba and was arrested under the provisional arrest warrant pending an extradition process by the American authorities in the Irish courts, he could apply for asylum while being held in prison here.&quot;<p>An interesting prospect but incredibly unlikely.
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digikata将近 12 年前
It will be an interesting contrast to see if Ireland is equally willing to shelter live persons as well as they do corporations.
1337biz将近 12 年前
I still don&#x27;t get why Russia is not just putting him on military transport to Cuba. They should have &quot;some&quot; experience flying that route without US interference. Nobody would mess around with a military transport and getting him out of the country would probably reflect on Russia better than just harboring him around at the transit zone.
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transfire将近 12 年前
On the 4th of this July the fireworks appeared as tears falling from our skies spirit sinking with the fading twinkle<p>On this 4th of July the fireworks could be heard bombs bursting against nerves and conscious in this land that has become so large in view so small in vision nothing but the feared and the fearing
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mtgx将近 12 年前
It seems the US bullying of other countries over Snowden is several times worse than it was for Wikileaks.
Shivetya将近 12 年前
So a diplomatic flight would be or would not be safe? Or does it entirely depend on how big you are? Does diplomatic immunity only exist on the grounds of an embassy and all points between simply make you fair game?<p>As in, whose plane would you have to be on to be safe? The Popes?
lambersley将近 12 年前
I really don&#x27;t understand the public outcry. In the eyes of all that matters, he broke the law. Snowden knew where he signed up to work. Noone with any amount of brain processing capability would be so naive as to think that sort of stuff wasn&#x27;t happening via the NSA. I have worked for organizations that when I categorically disagreed with their business model and operating processes, I left. He had that choice. It was certainly not his job to hold the Agency accountable. His chosen method was certainly not the acceptable protocol. In fact, its highly illegal.<p>This does not mean that I agree with the US or any Gov&#x27;t for that matter also breaking laws.<p>EDIT: &quot;Why shouldn&#x27;t I work for the NSA?&quot; - Good Will Hunting, 1997 <a href="http://goo.gl/hjMHg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;goo.gl&#x2F;hjMHg</a>
wwhitman将近 12 年前
This made me think of a court case a few years back. The defendant was arrested for shooting a potato cannon (PVC pipe, BBQ grill lighter and hairspray for propellant). When the charges were read as using a dangerous weapon the defendant&#x27;s lawyer replied that if a potato were a dangerous weapon then Ireland would be a superpower.
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kimlelly将近 12 年前
I guess they&#x27;re getting afraid of this scenario, as well:<p><a href="http://www.thelocal.de/national/20130704-50697.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thelocal.de&#x2F;national&#x2F;20130704-50697.html</a>