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Link between quantum physics and game theory found

104 点作者 iliis将近 12 年前

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anigbrowl将近 12 年前
(from <a href="http://arxiv.org/pdf/1210.1173v1.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;1210.1173v1.pdf</a>)<p><i>However, in certain cases the players may adapt their strategy depending on a piece of advice. The latter is delivered to all players by an advisor. This opens the possibility for the players to adopt correlated strategies, which can outperform independent strategies. There are various forms that advice can take. For example in the case of correlated classical advice, the advice is represented by a classical variable, l, with prior r(l). Each player can then choose a strategy depending on his type and on l.</i><p>...<p><i>For Bayesian games, the possibility of having access to nonlocal correlations, for instance using entanglement, has important implications. First let us imagine that the players can share quantum advice, that is, the advisor is able to produce entangled particles and to send them to the players, who then perform local measurements on their particles. Since the statistics of such measurements can in general not be reproduced by any classical local model, the players now have access to strategies which would be impossible in the case of a classical advisor. Thus, players sharing quantum advice can outperform any classical players.</i><p>So, if some players have information that other players don&#x27;t, they can outperform the others? Astonishing :-|
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domdip将近 12 年前
My interpretation of this for those with a bit of game theory background:<p>Locality (in physics) can be translated (in game theory) as a constraint on correlated equilibria, by pretty basic observations about Bayesian probability.<p>Generally in game theory when you lift constraints on correlated equilibria you (weakly) expand the possible Nash equilibria.<p>So one of their points seems to be that the quantum context (non-locality) allows for more (potentially better) equilibria.<p>They don&#x27;t emphasize applications of this, but one of them could be that distributed quantum systems could have better outcomes than distributed systems in the classical setting. (One way to analyze distributed systems is by viewing components as independent actors in a game.)<p>There is also an identification between payoff functions and Bell inequalities, but I am not sure how profound this is really. It feels more like a technical point. Payoff functions are not terribly fundamental in game theory (compared to equilibria, for instance).
GuiA将近 12 年前
Original article is behind a paywall (<a href="http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/130703/ncomms3057/full/ncomms3057.html#affil-auth" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;ncomms&#x2F;2013&#x2F;130703&#x2F;ncomms3057&#x2F;full&#x2F;nco...</a>), and author&#x27;s page (<a href="http://theory.physics.unige.ch/~brunner/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;theory.physics.unige.ch&#x2F;~brunner&#x2F;</a>) does not have a PDF :(
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floobynewb将近 12 年前
Deep link? The two fields both contain the notion of locality, big woop. The application of quantum nonlocal correlations to game theory is interesting, but this is not what is advertised in the article. I am displeased.
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aneth4将近 12 年前
I&#x27;m very interested in any theoretical connections between interactions of conscious beings and quantum physics. I&#x27;ve read a number of physicists discounting any such possibility, but it&#x27;s clear to me nobody understands these things well enough to know.<p>Personally I think consciousness, perception, and free will are a great unknown, and likely involve the makeup of the cosmos including quantum interactions.<p>If anyone knows of any science in this area I would appreciate references.
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d23将近 12 年前
Since this is being upvoted on hacker news, I&#x27;m assuming this is more than the typical BS filled science journalism. But I wish there were a site that allowed individuals respected in a similar field to have a disproportionate weight when upvoting articles like this. Or perhaps they could give a summary of the context surrounding the article. It&#x27;d be nice to get a sense of the magnitude of these discoveries.<p>Given that this is coming directly from a university, I don&#x27;t doubt that it is important. I&#x27;d just like to know <i>how</i> important.
Filligree将近 12 年前
I can&#x27;t comment on the supposed result this article claims, but really, locality?<p>Quantum mechanics is <i>not</i> a nonlocal theory. The result the article was referring to - Bell inequality - states simply that &quot;No physical theory of local hidden variables can ever reproduce all of the predictions of quantum mechanics.&quot;<p>The wording is important. You can have nonlocal hidden variables, or you can have.. local theories without hidden variables. The most famous of the latter would be MWI.
jonahx将近 12 年前
Sounds interesting but the article was vague. If anyone understands it, could you provide a real world example and explain how their discoveries would apply. They mentioned auctions but didn&#x27;t give any details.
thomasjames将近 12 年前
Now pseudo-intellectuals can double the quantum woo!
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nawitus将近 12 年前
&gt;Next, by bringing quantum mechanics into the game, the researchers showed that players who can use quantum resources, such as entangled quantum particles, can outperform classical players. That is, quantum players achieve better performance than any classical player ever could.<p>Classical players can build a classical computer which simulates quantum computers. Of course, I really should read the paper instead of zero-content press releases..
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jostmey将近 12 年前
Just because the mathematical operations are similar does not mean the two fields are at all related. The quadratic equation has many uses, but that does not mean that everything the equation is used for is in some way fundamentally related.
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MrBra将近 12 年前
I read the article but all I got is that somehow the reasearchers brought quantum theory principles into game theory. I don&#x27;t think that&#x27;s enough explaining, even for a layman...