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Overtime is Morphine

91 点作者 emiller829将近 12 年前

7 条评论

nawitus将近 12 年前
Simple solution (from the software engineer&#x27;s perspective): demand overtime pay. If you are officially expected to work 40h&#x2F;week for certain amount of money, but in practise you&#x27;re &quot;expected&quot; to work 50h&#x2F;week, then your real wage is actually 20% lower than what your contract says. And that is pretty similar to theft.<p>It&#x27;s time to start comparing wages instead of absolute income.
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esmale将近 12 年前
Unfortunately there is a long history of management viewing overtime as equivalent to a person&#x27;s &#x27;dedication&#x27; to the project.<p>One of my college Computer Science professors, the one I liked and respected the most, worked at Novell for quite a while back in the day. Not sure if his entire 20+ year programming career was spent there before going back to school to get his PhD. In any event, at one point he was a team lead at Novell. He made sure to hire, train and develop the right kind of programmers for his team. The kind that write tests, solid code, and practice good engineering principles.<p>To my memory, when he was telling us this story, the overtime he and his team worked was somewhere between minimal to non-existant. Their code was clean, well-tested, and worked. So at 5pm they would go home.<p>There was another team that was always scrambling at the last minute, and clocking lots of overtime.<p>When it came time for company&#x2F;management recognition, which team received the accolades? The team that clocked all that overtime, because they MUST have been working harder to get things done than the other team. Right?
shailesh将近 12 年前
True story: a CMM Level 5 software organization had precisely the exact same issue. There was a PM, who would literally spend the entire day wasting time and start real work around 5 PM. Then work till late night.<p>Once he advised me, &quot;Always make sure that you send an e-mail, late at night to anybody in the organization, before you call it day.&quot;<p>&quot;Why?&quot;<p>To make it short, per his advise, the single most important thing about those e-mails, wasn&#x27;t the contents, but just the <i>timestamp.</i>
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keithhanson将近 12 年前
I like the article, and would love to apply, as &quot;management&quot; in my own company, effective measures to cure the pain instead of treat it. In fact, I generally try to do just that.<p>But what this is basically suggesting is &quot;locking out&quot; your employer. While I agree that is absolutely what should happen, doing this without the leadership AND the developer in agreement about why sounds like disaster.<p>I know it&#x27;s likely impossible to capture all the work and discussion it takes to reshape a company&#x27;s process in a blog post, but I feel like if I had a dependence on OT in my company (as the &quot;patient&quot;), and a lockout went into effect, I would be focusing on the lockout, not every other problem in the company that caused it (which as management, it&#x27;s my job to figure <i>those</i> problems out). What is being suggested is basically arm twisting to get what you want :&#x2F;<p>That never works when you cause more pain to the company than it&#x27;s able to alleviate over time. They&#x27;ll eventually get tired of the pain and move on to another drug unless you succeed in getting them to understand.<p>I feel like better advice is to tell developers that they need to discuss this with their direct reports, boss, whomever, and talk about the problem and WHY you&#x27;ll actually make the company better gains at sustainable pace. And by all means, point out and suggest ways for your boss to improve things.<p>If after educating your &quot;patient&quot; the issue still persists, of course, twist away. But not everyone in this world needs these sorts of tactics to improve their workplace, and even in those workplaces, there are likely more successful ways to cure the pain, not just treat it.
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epa将近 12 年前
Consider the industry you are going into before complaining about overtime. I am expected to work long over time hours on a regular (daily) basis during busy seasons without extra compensation and this is what I expected going in. Highly skilled individuals who have extensive training will be &#x27;put to work&#x27; in order to derive the benefits of this training by their employer.<p>You are willing to put up with this behavior because you believe that one day your training and experience will lead you to a very high paying job. Lawyers, doctors, accountants, engineers, the professionals, all understand that there is a necessary grind in order to prove your worth.<p>If you are not cut out for it, there is always work as a desk clerk making above minimum wage working 9-430. Yes, some employers have very relax policies relating to getting work done. But who are the ones producing the highest quality innovative work? The people working hard on a daily basis.
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ExpiredLink将近 12 年前
Overtime makes sense from an <i>employer&#x27;s</i> point of view. That&#x27;s why the problem will persist for employees.
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thejosh将近 12 年前
Your website breaks the back button.
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