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House Defeats Effort to Rein In N.S.A. Data Gathering

74 点作者 mbateman将近 12 年前

8 条评论

s_q_b将近 12 年前
I really do commend everyone involved in this effort. This is how the system is supposed to work, citizens making their voices know, and the legislature acting upon the will of the people.<p>Honestly you guys got far closer to your goal than I would have anticipated. The bipartison support was almost unprecedented in recent years.<p>From a practical matter, even if the House bill passed it was dead on arrival in the Senate. But nevertheless it is a significant symbolic blow to blanket surveillance against American citizens.<p>All I&#x27;ve tried to communicate, perhaps with less than appropriate tact, is that this is going to be a long slog.<p>If you&#x27;re going to reign in the surveillance state, you&#x27;ll need to start thinking like Washington insiders. Pick one incumbent that vocally supported these programs, and take him or her down. That will instantly catapult this issue to the top of the concerns in DC.<p>It only costs a few million to get that done. Considering the wealth of the tech industry, and the threat this poses to overseas expansion of the US internet services, donations shouldn&#x27;t be overly difficult to drum up. We could really make a large dent in getting the legislature to help roll back these programs to sane levels. Add to that an anit-SOPA style social media campaign, and you could accomplish real and lasting change.
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clarkm将近 12 年前
Here is roll call, complete with a map:<p><a href="http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/113/house/1/412" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;politics.nytimes.com&#x2F;congress&#x2F;votes&#x2F;113&#x2F;house&#x2F;1&#x2F;412</a><p>The vote wasn&#x27;t partisan, nor did it break along geographic lines.
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NoPiece将近 12 年前
The roll call if you are interested in how your congressman voted:<p><a href="http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll412.xml" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;clerk.house.gov&#x2F;evs&#x2F;2013&#x2F;roll412.xml</a>
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ojbyrne将近 12 年前
I hope that every tech person in SF will be clear and unequivocal in saying ... &quot;Dear Ms. Pelosi, you have demonstrated that you do not represent your constituents and you will never receive my vote, and that I will put all my efforts into ensuring that you are never reelected.&quot;
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finkin1将近 12 年前
I&#x27;m somewhat encouraged by this. 12 votes and it would have passed. Even though it didn&#x27;t pass and will ultimately be seen as a failure, I imagine this will serve as a wake-up call.<p>Imagine the investment made by the NSA into collecting and processing all of this data. 12 votes and it could have changed. This must have scared the shit out of someone. Hopefully this is just the beginning.
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lettergram将近 12 年前
This will probably come up again (along similar lines) clearly there would be enough support after some back room deals.
webwanderings将近 12 年前
What a mind boggling time we are living in where the liberal government is pressing to keep such practices and conservatives are against it only because they are against liberals in principle.<p>If this is not the doom of two-party ideology of liberal&#x2F;conservative political system than I am not sure what is.
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AsymetricCom将近 12 年前
So when do we see a similar vote to rein in corporate and other private entity data gathering? Or are we all conservatives here?
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