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Straws And Cups That Detect Date Rape Drugs

120 点作者 duggieawesome将近 12 年前

18 条评论

Nursie将近 12 年前
1. Awesome invention, straws that detect adulterants and change colour<p>2. Obviously people do get drugged occasionally, the inventor seems to have had it happen to him<p>3. Unfortunately there seems to be no real evidence that GHB or ketamine are often used in sexual assaults, and even Rohypnol which has the worst reputation has not often been detected. A straw that could detect a drink that&#x27;s stronger than you think it is might be more useful, AFAICT the number one date-rape drug is alcohol.<p>(I want to be absolutely clear here, I&#x27;m not saying date rape doesn&#x27;t happen, I&#x27;m not saying that some really nasty people don&#x27;t deliberately get others into pliable states to take advantage of them, but AFAICT the use of drugs in the way the media likes to run scare stories about is very uncommon)
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incision将近 12 年前
Clubs and bars tend to be dark and the patrons inebriated. I have to imagine that those factors would go an awful long way toward nullifying any benefit of this stuff.<p>Also, if the technology involved is anything like the color-changing &quot;field test&quot; kits that cops use, false positives will be a problem.<p>An associate of mine was booked for &quot;heroin possession&quot; when an overzealous cop decided to test his aspirin during a traffic stop - he was released the instant he got a hold of a lawyer.
eggbrain将近 12 年前
This is a great invention that can help prevent abuse, but I&#x27;m worried bars won&#x27;t buy in for a few reasons:<p>1) I assume the cups have to be disposable, as the strips probably don&#x27;t work multiple times. Most bars I&#x27;ve been to don&#x27;t use disposable cups.<p>2) Even if they did, it has to be cost effective for the bar to consider using them. If 1000 cups is $250 (0.25&#x2F;cup) and you can get 10,000 normal cups for that price, that&#x27;s going to probably factor into their decision.<p>3) The bar might be worried that having these cups might reflect poorly on their reputation. I can imagine people saying to themselves &quot;Why is the bar using special glasses that detect date rape? Is date rape a problem at this bar?&quot; When you introduce an item like this it might lead to speculation that there is a problem when really you&#x27;re trying to be safe. It&#x27;s like if you installed a metal detector at a club and put bars on the windows -- you might be doing it just to be safe, but your patrons might think &quot;do things happen here that warrant security precautions like this&quot;?
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Millennium将近 12 年前
It seems to me that, rather than making straws and drinks that do this, it would be better to see if it could be incorporated into some kind of nail polish that, once dried, could detect this.<p>I suggest nail polish for two reasons. One is that it removes the need to carry specialized tools: once you&#x27;ve done your nails, you can test 10 drinks and leave the bottle at home. Not having to carry a tool is somewhat more convenient, but it also means the tool can&#x27;t be forgotten, lost, stolen, or tampered with.<p>The other advantage is discretion. It&#x27;s not difficult, with a setup like this, to test a drink without others knowing what you are doing. It could be argued that people shouldn&#x27;t mind being tested, but from a pragmatic standpoint, the kind of person who spikes a drink is the kind of person who could very easily become dangerous if they know they&#x27;re being put to the test. A discreet test, therefore, is a safer test, and since these tests are supposed to be all about safety, it follows that a discreet test is also a better test.
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bluetidepro将近 12 年前
&gt; &quot;Boston Man <i>Invents</i> Straws And Cups That Detect Date Rape Drugs&quot;<p>Invents? I thought this has been around for quite awhile now? I remember hearing about things like this years ago. Maybe it was just the idea, and had not yet been actually a physical product though?
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andrewhillman将近 12 年前
These drugs are without consistent ingredients and are always changing. He will need to stay ontop of drug trends and the constant iteration will side track the project. His biggest challenge will be scoring the actual drug to test the sensors... The chances that he will be able to produce these cups for an amount equal to the current cost of a regular plastic cup is doubtful. Etch-it cups can&#x27;t even come close to the price of a regular plastic cup so how can these sensor cups be priced to attract bulk orders from bars and clubs?<p>My guess is that he is banking that the patent has value to cup manufacturers but the cup manufacturers probably don&#x27;t want to hire a slew of scientist for R&amp;D. They just want to make and sell cups.
adamio将近 12 年前
Invent me a cup that tells me if my Diet Coke is actually Regular Coke, then we can talk
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venomsnake将近 12 年前
Now I know I may be stupid engineer but isn&#x27;t much simpler solution to have someone trusted who to call from time to time. With everybody having smartphones an gps app that for given period of time sends messages to trusted 3rd party about your location and being able to call if something is out of order is also a solution.<p>Just before going upstairs she just calls to the &quot;warden&quot; and if she is speaking coherent ... do whatever you like. If not - the trusted party can take a cab or signal the police.
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diminoten将近 12 年前
Instead of every cup or every straw doing this, some random and unknown percentage would do it. Combined with advertising, it could be an effective deterrent in a place where this is a real problem.<p>People keep mentioning a bar&#x27;s reputation, but at the end of the day if this is a real problem for your bar, your reputation is already screwed. This seems to me like a very pro-active way of working on fixing an already broken reputation.
doingitwrong将近 12 年前
If you find yourself going to a venue where you think one of these would be handy, shouldn&#x27;t you just not go?
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pjscott将近 12 年前
When the drink isn&#x27;t drugged, these look just like straws and cups that <i>don&#x27;t</i> detect drugs. This suggests an obvious attack: swap out the straw or cup for a plain plastic one. (Countermeasure: make the cups and straws look distinctive.)
xsmasher将近 12 年前
Wonder what the false positive &#x2F; false negative rate is?<p>Either one could lead to a dangerous situation.
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codebeaker将近 12 年前
I happen to know (no time to look up the patent number now, sorry) that this is covered by a US, and EU patent. A friend of mine lost more than €30,000 to being sued by a firm that already holds the rights to this.<p>I hope he figures it out before they start trolling him. My friend&#x27;s “invention” also covered a product on beer-mats and serviettes that would change colour under the same circumstances, unfortunately the patent he was facing down was so broadly written that it covered basically anything that could be used to detect daterape drugs in a drink by indicating it somehow.<p>Surely the patent could have been battled, but he wasn&#x27;t in the financial position to do so.
jkoehler将近 12 年前
- how many cups contain a drug (i.e. 0,1%; 99.9% are drug free)?<p>- is the problem big enough for bars to care about?<p>- do cup producers increase their rev&#x2F;profit with this cup?
newbie12将近 12 年前
I want a straw that tests for adulterated alcohol-- specifically for a bar serving filtered rubbing alcohol instead of the real stuff.
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JulianMorrison将近 12 年前
A better solution is to learn the behaviors that rapists use - being pushy and overbearing, not taking no for an answer, cutting out of the herd, stuff like that. If your buddy behaves like that, don&#x27;t let him get away with it.<p>And it&#x27;s useless to detect rape drugs because the biggest rape drug is <i>alcohol</i>.
asdasf将近 12 年前
Why does this frequently &quot;invented&quot; useless item keep getting press every time it is &quot;invented&quot; for the dozenth time? These are really misguided devices, that give people a false sense of safety (it is even labeled &quot;safe&quot; on the non-spiked drink) when alcohol is far and away the most used and most dangerous date rape drug.
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celwell将近 12 年前
It&#x27;s genius!