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iPhone logs my complete movement profile

158 点作者 ladino将近 12 年前

24 条评论

tsycho将近 12 年前
That&#x27;s how the iOS core location API works (and it has been this way since iOS 5 atleast, if not earlier).<p>In particular, there is a |startMonitoringSignificantLocationChanges| method (<a href="https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/CoreLocation/Reference/CLLocationManager_Class/CLLocationManager/CLLocationManager.html#//apple_ref/occ/instm/CLLocationManager/startMonitoringSignificantLocationChanges" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.apple.com&#x2F;library&#x2F;ios&#x2F;documentation&#x2F;CoreLo...</a>), which &quot;callbacks&quot; into apps that have registered with the Core Location framework for significant change updates. The update is provided generally only when cell towers change, so it is not a battery drain (or not a significant one). Hence, your mobile operator definitely has this data, and is most likely already tracking it and&#x2F;or piping it to the NSA etc.<p>Significant change monitoring is used by Google Now among other apps (I believe Facebook also does this, I find that more sneaky since they have no obvious need for it). Google Maps <i>navigation</i> does not use this, since it needs more granular and accurate data hence it uses the more battery-intensive location APIs.<p>If the complaint is that it&#x27;s okay for Apple to collect this data for apps to use, but there is no need to log it, especially since the user might choose to not allow any apps to access their location data, then that&#x27;s a fair point. I don&#x27;t know if iOS shows these logs only on the beta versions, or whether they are stored persistently on release versions as well.<p>Source: I am a iOS dev, and have built location based apps.
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julianpye将近 12 年前
If you want to build transparent context-aware services, your system will need to create this information. Nothing new to do with the iPhone, since Telcos already have had this information for ages (and could use them anonymously) - it&#x27;s good at least that in this system you see how the data is being analysed and associated with Work&#x2F;Home, etc... and not that it is hidden in the background.
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Watabou将近 12 年前
Android does this too with Google Now.<p>iOS7 uses frequent locations, pretty much like Google Now, to provide the travel times, with traffic, between your frequently visited locations.<p>Here&#x27;s a screenshot: <a href="http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2013/06/location2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn.macrumors.com&#x2F;article-new&#x2F;2013&#x2F;06&#x2F;location2.jpg</a>
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rsynnott将近 12 年前
You mean that thing it asks you for permission to do when you set up the phone, and gives you a slider to disable? It actually does it? Well, I&#x27;m shocked, I tell you, shocked.
thejosh将近 12 年前
Atleast they will show you the data, unlike phone companies who hold all this data anyway.<p>Once you have a phone device with an active signal you are tracked, and that&#x27;s just not being paranoid either.
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BitMastro将近 12 年前
The same happens with Google Maps <a href="https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;maps.google.com&#x2F;locationhistory&#x2F;</a> unless you disable location history.<p>I think it&#x27;s naive to suppose that your location information is not stored anywhere. Moreover, your location can be determined also if you&#x27;re using a dumb-phone using cell towers triangulation.
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willvarfar将近 12 年前
A long time ago, when the first iphone location logs got attention, we made a little web-page for people to visualise this:<p><a href="http://markolson.github.com/js-sqlite-map-thing/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;markolson.github.com&#x2F;js-sqlite-map-thing&#x2F;</a><p>Blog post: <a href="http://williamedwardscoder.tumblr.com/post/15210221400/visualising-iphone-tracking-data" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;williamedwardscoder.tumblr.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;15210221400&#x2F;visua...</a><p>&gt; It turns out people have no squirms dragging and dropping their private backup files - often all their files, and not just picking out the files we ask for even - onto a webpage running code we wrote.
antonID将近 12 年前
I have been using the iOS7 beta since it came out, and before doing this, it had asked me for permission. This is opt-in, so if you don&#x27;t like it you don&#x27;t have to use it.
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jbrooksuk将近 12 年前
What&#x27;s wrong with this? Apple are openly providing this information for you to view - rather than others who don&#x27;t even warn the user. Plus, it&#x27;s improving their services which you more than likely need.<p>Why complain? You can opt out.
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digitalengineer将近 12 年前
Why do our European leaders even plan RFID in licenceplates? With this in the default &#x27;ON&#x27; position on all smartphones they can already keep an eye on everybody. <a href="http://www.autoblog.nl/images/wp2013/tweet-2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.autoblog.nl&#x2F;images&#x2F;wp2013&#x2F;tweet-2.jpg</a>
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37prime将近 12 年前
It is nothing new. In previous iOS, this data was not presented to users at all.<p>Android does this too.<p>At least you can turn this off in iOS 7 beta 5.
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octo_t将近 12 年前
It also does analysis, similar to Google Now, that tells you how long it will take to get home from where you are now.
northwest将近 12 年前
Society has accepted to be tracked all the time&#x2F;everywhere with the introduction of mobile phones.<p>If we don&#x27;t like this, we should start to talk more proactively to people about the dangers our technology brings.
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lukashed将近 12 年前
Since this is a developer preview, there are plenty of other logging options as well.<p>For example, if you got to the Settings -&gt; Developer -&gt; Logging menu, you can dump all your network traffic.<p>You can also do this on (some) application-levels, e.g. if you go to the iMessage preferences, you can enable &quot;iMessage Logging&quot; and &quot;Registration Logging&quot;, same for FaceTime (though I&#x27;m not sure why any developer would need this, it looks more like this is an Apple-internal thing that they forgot to disable for the public).
ltcoleman将近 12 年前
I&#x27;m pretty sure this is completely against the NDA...No respect.
wsr将近 12 年前
Wow, this is an amazing find.<p>I can understand that Apple&#x2F;govt would love this information. But anyone has guesses on why this would be a public facing feature?
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eknkc将近 12 年前
BTW, it asks specifically if you want to share the information with Apple to improve maps data before activating that feature.
rumbler将近 12 年前
What depresses me is, I see how this information could be used in many kinds of amazing ways, but since I cannot control who gets it and what they will do with it, I refuse to use it for fear that it will be used against me.<p>It is the tragedy of the modern connected world, one that Stallman and others saw coming years ago. And it will keep getting worse.
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andrewingram将近 12 年前
Looks like they&#x27;re just making visible what they&#x27;ve been doing for years, hardly a new controversy.<p>2011: <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/225845/Why_Apple_Tracks_You_Via_iPhone_It_Not_Why_You_Think.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pcworld.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;225845&#x2F;Why_Apple_Tracks_You_V...</a>
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incanus77将近 12 年前
This was covered in The Verge this week: <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/5/4590794/ios-7-will-ask-users-to-help-improve-maps-by-sharing-frequent-locations" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;8&#x2F;5&#x2F;4590794&#x2F;ios-7-will-ask-user...</a>
joering2将近 12 年前
Im not related to this project, but I thought its worth mentioning here:<p><a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/offpocket/off-pocket?ref=category" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kickstarter.com&#x2F;projects&#x2F;offpocket&#x2F;off-pocket?ref...</a>
yalogin将近 12 年前
I thought this only happens with your permission. I remember this is in the first few screens after you update. Also in the screen shot of his it clearly shows he gave permission to remember location. Why is this news? What am I not seeing?
ladino将近 12 年前
a bit scary to see exactly how often and when i was where with my gf... nice to see they added a microphone privacy setting.<p>Anyway imho it&#x27;s close to a perfect surveillance system.
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blizzard30将近 12 年前
This does not exist :)) looked for it, and I have the same beta.
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