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Obama, tech executives met to discuss surveillance

40 点作者 moskie将近 12 年前

9 条评论

darkchasma将近 12 年前
I was certain that Bush Jr. was going to go down in history as the worst president in my lifetime. But if Obama doesn't straighten this out soon, it's going to be him. Which is very disappointing, because he showed so much promise before he was elected. But under his watch, whether directly or indirectly, he's created the least free regime of any president ever elected in the US.
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helloNSA_将近 12 年前
Execs -&gt; Obama &quot;You said no one would find out about this shit if we played ball! WTF! We pay you assholes a lot of money!&quot;<p>Obama -&gt; Execs &quot;Relax, we have the NSA working on Lavabit to get Snowden&#x27;s emails right now. As soon as we have some truth to mix in with our lies we&#x27;ll have him discredited with false allegations of CP or some other horse shit. The pleebs&#x27; short memories and NFL football will take care of the rest.&quot;<p>Execs -&gt; Obama &quot;It had better or the Secret Service will fall asleep on the job one day.&quot;<p>Obama -&gt; Execs &quot;Cocaine and hookers on me!&quot;
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epistasis将近 12 年前
&gt;&quot;There was broad concern among privacy advocates and the private sector about the impact of the NSA&#x27;s surveillance efforts. Several of the private sector representatives worried that the international backlash against NSA collection of foreign data would harm American global competitiveness,&quot; American Civil Liberties Union President Susan Herman said.<p>This is very encouraging. Though I doubt that civil liberties groups have much pull on the White House or Congress, hopefully having all these large tech companies on board will add some pull to the message.<p>Throw in &quot;global economic competitiveness&quot; and&#x2F;or &quot;jobs&quot; and it can almost counteract the &quot;terrorism&quot; propaganda war.
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andyl将近 12 年前
Who in the room was the advocate for open internet?<p>I don&#x27;t want my future to look like the Apple Store or AT&amp;T&#x27;s closed network. I won&#x27;t accept it.
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dictum将近 12 年前
&gt;Since the NSA&#x27;s vast data-gathering programs were revealed in June, the president has repeatedly said he would encourage a national conversation on the need for U.S. surveillance while respecting people&#x27;s right to privacy.<p>Let me build a straw man of what I think will be the argument:<p>&quot;If you&#x27;re against mass surveillance[1], your position isn&#x27;t reasonable. We must protect our country. Protecting our country requires watching for people who want to do us harm. If you love America, you should let us protect the nation, and that requires the practices our agencies do. We guarantee data will be used only following the correct procedures and safeguards[2]. We cannot tell too much about the programs or the groups and individuals who want to harm us will use this knowledge to put those who serve the nation and all American citizens at risk.&quot;<p>[1] Of course the term won&#x27;t be &quot;mass surveillance&quot;, but some Luntzian&#x2F;Orwellian expression: &quot;protecting our communications&quot;<p>[2] <i>We will establish the procedures and safeguards.</i>
petegrif将近 12 年前
Now that it&#x27;s dawning on people that this is going to kill the US&#x27;s international cloud computing business the big money lobbying will kick in and we&#x27;ll probably see some action.
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DanielBMarkham将近 12 年前
&quot;...Herman added that despite such meetings, &quot;It&#x27;s not clear yet that the White House appreciates the need to scale back these surveillance programs substantially instead of just rationalizing or tinkering with them.&quot;..&quot;<p>I welcome any attention the president can give this issue. I also acknowledge as Commander in Chief it is his role to be publicly responsible for this mess. As Chief Executive, at any moment he can pick the phone up and make substantive things happen n this issue. Having said that, what we really need is legislative relief.<p>Here&#x27;s hoping we don&#x27;t get a feel-good PR statment and posturing geared to divide the electorate instead of solving the problem. I have my fingers crossed.
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SmokyBorbon将近 12 年前
It&#x27;s time to start calling them &quot;collaborators&quot;.
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dreamdu5t将近 12 年前
Are you people stupid? This is PR! It&#x27;s so transparent.
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