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Peter Shih Complains About the Shithole City He's Forced to Make His Millions In

65 点作者 titlex将近 12 年前

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endtwist将近 12 年前
I’m not sure which is more bitter, the original article or its response. If you’re going to disagree with someone, actually address the points he makes. Attacking him personally is petty and isn’t conducive to real discussion. Peter's feelings aren't necessarily without merit--why not discuss them?
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hide_nowhere将近 12 年前
I lived in the SV for ~15 years, and for family reasons I&#x27;ve been a resident of SF since mid-2010. Oh, sunshine and parking lots, how I miss thee!<p>I have to strongly agree with almost all of Peter&#x27;s points. I love SF, but hate living here.<p>Quite often, I find that I&#x27;d rather stay in than deal with the frustrations.. and, this has made me the most socially isolated I&#x27;ve been since I was a kid.<p>I live in a great home in a beautiful but remote part of the city. Nothing is convenient. The nearest restaurant or convenience store is a 25 minute walk away. Traveling just 5 miles to a F&#x2F;T job in the soma can take longer than driving from the south peninsula.. and public transit in this city is terrible, so I just won&#x27;t tolerate working at a F&#x2F;T job that requires daily presence in an office. Parking, if you can find it, is expensive and just a PITA.<p>The things I love and do to blow off steam are only available outside of the city.. Trail running the PG&amp;E trail at Rancho San Antonio was one of them, and I&#x27;d do it several times a week before coming here. Now, getting to them takes a 90 minute round-trip drive.<p>Sometimes you&#x27;re heads down on code, and you just want to refuel and get out to clear your head, so you jump in your car and drive a couple minutes to a 24 hour drive-through to grab some food. Not possible here. Sure, you can hit the Jack in the Box on Geary, which does have a parking lot, but that can be perilous.. Or, you might need to pick up some RAM or a new HD.. The Fry&#x27;s in Palo Alto was 10 minutes away from my last home.<p>The SV has evolved the support the tech lifestyle.. and it will always be more friendly and efficient for many of us. Day to day living is generally easier for most. The schools are significantly better for your kids, too. SF is, and will always be SF, such as it is.
kmfrk将近 12 年前
Valleywag version (blocked from HN submission): <a href="http://valleywag.gawker.com/startup-stud-hates-homeless-people-ugly-girls-and-pub-1150802451" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;valleywag.gawker.com&#x2F;startup-stud-hates-homeless-peop...</a>.
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rdl将近 12 年前
The funny thing is he is mostly right on his 10 points, just not phrased in a very sympathetic way.<p>If I could live in Switzerland or New Zealand or Seattle (ideal), Vancouver BC or Vancouver WA or Austin or Hong Kong (ok), or Berlin or Prague or other EE or Reno or Las Vegas (tolerable), and raise money&#x2F;hire&#x2F;meet people&#x2F;etc as easily as in SFBA, I&#x27;d be on the next fucking plane. As it is, SFBA is tolerable only because there is Bay Area outside San Francisco.
zeruch将近 12 年前
Shih is shrill, but the response is also. A lot of his criticisms are based in a kernel of truth for a lot of people (especially the public transport, the nightlife and the bicylists), and while he may have intended satire, the delivery was caustic and withering. I can find parallel complaints for almost any major metropole.
calbear81将近 12 年前
This was published on my birthday so I thought it would be good to reflect on the same points:<p>1. Public Transportation - The MUNI is definitely one of the worst run transportation systems for a large city but I find that having a city that&#x27;s only 6 miles wide means that I can find other means of getting around including biking, walking, getting a Lyft (Uber if I must), and occasionally catching a MUNI train which I find much more reliable than MUNI buses which I avoid at all costs.<p>2. Parking - See #1. If you have a bike, you will get places much faster than in a car. In terms of parking, you can use apps like SFPark to find open spots and garages. The prices are pretty ridiculous so I tend to find more happiness in walking or biking around.<p>3. Weather - The variable weather means a bunch of diverse microclimates all around the city and beyond which makes for amazing hiking and exploration. I love going from sunshine to dense fog as I cross the Golden Gate bridge and then back to sunshine again on the other side, it reminds me of the awesomeness of nature.<p>4. Start Up Guys - I don&#x27;t disagree that there&#x27;s more to life than the startup scene but I don&#x27;t think there&#x27;s anything wrong with people who have found something they are so interested in that they can&#x27;t stop talking about it. Bask in the energy and excitement that they have, there&#x27;s nothing wrong with that.<p>5. 49ers - My understanding was that San Francisco is a great place for guys especially since there is a significant part of the male population that is off the market. Other guys I&#x27;ve talked to have found the same thing. In terms of girls who are &quot;4&#x27;s&quot; behaving like they are &quot;9&#x27;s&quot; is more due to the fact that people here probably don&#x27;t focus as much on looks alone like they might do in other places. Girls who have high self esteem and have a good sense of self and self-worth should behave like 9&#x27;s because they are. Who are we to judge?<p>6. Homeless People - Pretty good way to reinforce stereotypes about homeless people by painting them all as drug addicts and alcoholics. You know why they are the &quot;craziest&quot;? It&#x27;s because many of them do have mental health issues and as a society based on our past and current policies have failed to adequately address the situation. I&#x27;m sure you&#x27;re inconvenienced by the homeless folks who remind you that there are those less fortunate but you might want to take it as a constant reminder of how good we have it and to enjoy all the niceties that we take for granted in everyday life -- like a hot meal and a roof over our heads.<p>7. Crime - The Tenderloin is R-O-U-G-H, no doubt about it but it&#x27;s one of the only areas of this prosperous city that working class families can afford to live in. Fear mongering keeps folks away and further isolates the area and introduces more likelihood of crime. I&#x27;m excited that Sunday Streets this weekend will be in the Tenderloin so folks can see that there&#x27;s more to the TL than crime and addicts. Eat at some great restaurants in the Tenderloin including the original Lers Ros (better than the Hayes Valley location), Turtle Tower and other awesome places.<p>8. Nightlife - It&#x27;s certainly no New York but there&#x27;s plenty happening in SF and yes the 2AM close time does suck but if you know where to go, the party lives on into the night. What I love about nightlife is that it&#x27;s not just clubs and bars, you can find a diverse range of activities in SF, from poetry readings to spoken word slams to BDSM lectures to Jersey-Shore style clubbing. There&#x27;s something for everyone. Just make sure you pre-plan how you&#x27;re getting home (psssst! try making a friend and crashing at their place near downtown instead!)<p>9. Cost of Living - I can&#x27;t argue about this one but I do feel that living in San Francisco should cost more especially when you consider the amazing beauty all around you. Cross the bridge and you&#x27;re in the Marin Headlands where you can hike along the Pacific Coast with hundreds of miles of trails within minutes of a major city. 3 hours away and you have world class skiing. 2 hours south and you have world class golf. 1 hour north and you&#x27;re at the epicenter of wine making in the New World. Outside of New York and Vancouver, where else will you find an urban park as large as Golden Gate Park to enjoy? It&#x27;s an amazing confluence of culture, food, arts and nature.<p>10. Bicyclists - Do I stop for all stop signs? Not really but I always slow down to a crawl and look both ways before crossing. Bicyclists definitely should do a better job of observing the rules of the road but I also love that this city is so pro bicyling with bike lanes and a positive bike culture. The drivers here are also waaaaaaay more respectful about sharing the road which makes biking here much safer than in New York and Los Angeles. I love that the city is so compact, you can see so much on a bike in just a few hours.<p>TLDR; Yeah, some things suck about SF but look on the bright side and explore all the awesomeness around you.
001sky将近 12 年前
Ad hominem much?
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