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Radical Inclusion vs. Radical Self-Reliance at Burning Man

83 点作者 rms将近 12 年前

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rms将近 12 年前
I&#x27;ve heard that the amount of lighting and fire in the night sky at Burning Man works as a leading indicator of the economy, and if this year at Burning Man was an indicator, the economy is back.<p>I think much of the tension between haves and have-nots at Burning Man is contrived. I see modern Burning Man as a colloboration between wealthy techies from the Bay Area and builders and makers living closer to the event. There might be a higher proportion of spectators to participants at Burning Man in recent years, but in terms of absolute quantity there are more participants than ever.<p>Burning Man is not a communist utopia. It&#x27;s just Burning Man.
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lolwutf将近 12 年前
Ugh. Here we go again.<p>I&#x27;m really beginning to become tired of the constant tension associated with being in the tech industry (and, by proxy, its rung on the economic ladder):<p>-we&#x27;re driving up rent and destroying culture in San Francisco<p>-we&#x27;re ruining Burning Man<p>-we blow big money at yuppie places on yuppie things<p>Can&#x27;t we all just keep a low profile?<p>If Dustin really wanted to talk about his encounter with the Winklevii, did he really need to write a blog about the nature and economies of Burning Man, or couldn&#x27;t he have just focused specifically on the nuances of his encounter?<p>The horrible PR we all collectively maintain for ourselves is a definite NEGATIVE in this industry, sometimes.<p>For the record, I&#x27;m an average dude, went with a camp of other average, well-balanced people, setup my own damn tent, had a average amount of average gear, spent an average amount of time and money on preparation, and didn&#x27;t have an extravagant time above and beyond most people there. And it was enormously satisfying.<p>I also work in the tech industry, have done well for myself, make a crazy salary, and generally didn&#x27;t make a big deal about it.<p>EDIT - Not saying there weren&#x27;t parts of this post that didn&#x27;t need to be said (the encounter and it&#x27;s ramifications are incredible!), but a large part felt like ripping open a scab and just rubbing salt on the wound that is our presence.
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mullingitover将近 12 年前
Techies aren&#x27;t ruining burning man, techies <i>made</i> burning man. Without the techie demographic, burning man would be overrun with hippies and it&#x27;d be indistinguishable from any old Rainbow Gathering. Yes, people spend a lot of money on burning man. An obscene amount, even. However, I&#x27;d bet that a majority of that money is on art projects and legit theme camps, and only a sliver is spent on the &#x27;turn-key camps&#x27; that people get their knickers in a twist about.
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secstate将近 12 年前
Sigh. Having never lived on the West Coast or been swept up in Valley culture, I&#x27;m having trouble even parsing this blog post for value beyond the, fairly obvious conclusion, of BMOrg&#x27;s actual mission statement (which is partly in the title of the post).<p>Please don&#x27;t mistake me for being a jerk. Burning Man seems like it would be an awesome experience. But this article seems overly critical and self-conscious about an event that by design should eschew both.<p>Also, I hope you have BRC&#x27;s permission to use those photos ;-)
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dnr将近 12 年前
&quot;my own clothes were still all wrong&quot;<p>I can&#x27;t even imagine what this might mean in this context. It was pretty clear to me even on the first day that there&#x27;s no right or wrong way to dress, it&#x27;s just part of that (radical) self-expression thing.
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gcatalfamo将近 12 年前
This post made me want to go to next Burning Man with his team...
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the_cat_kittles将近 12 年前
I&#x27;ve never been to burning man. It does seem weird that in order to be &quot;radically included&quot; you have to travel to a specific place on earth at a specific time and do a bunch of stuff. I feel jealous when people talk about how its a spiritual experience. I find it hard to believe that it can be so transformative yet so short, relatively speaking- but I don&#x27;t dismiss it instantly. Is it kind of like some of the more interesting&#x2F;fun oriented frisbee tournaments? The only people I know that have gone are not inclusive people, they are competitive about being hip. The whole thing is a bizarre mystery to me. It does seem interesting though.