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Vastrm is the Warby Parker for shirts

21 点作者 jontang超过 11 年前

14 条评论

robertnealan超过 11 年前
@jontang - First off I&#x27;ll be the first positive voice in that there&#x27;s quite possibly a niche of people crazy enough to pay $90+ for a polo shirt. That niche isn&#x27;t likely going to be myself or in general the people here on HN, but it doesn&#x27;t mean it doesn&#x27;t exist.<p>Regarding all the criticism&#x2F;feedback that people are providing here - take it to heart. No, really - TAKE IT TO HEART. Reading through the list of comments it seems like everyone is providing similar criticisms (specifically that they&#x27;d never pay that much for a shirt and that they don&#x27;t like the association with Warby Parker). While it&#x27;s only natural to try to defend your position, I&#x27;d say really try to dig in and ask, &quot;Is there a reason everyone is saying the same things or are they just misunderstanding my business?&quot; If the latter, realize that this isn&#x27;t a &quot;People just don&#x27;t understand us&quot; issue like some type of angsty teenager, it&#x27;s a flaw in how Vastrm is marketing itself and how potential customers see the potential benefit. This isn&#x27;t something to be taken lightly and dismissed, this is something that has killed countless great businesses.<p>Everything aside - I don&#x27;t really like polo shirts to begin with, but I wish you the best of luck.
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krschultz超过 11 年前
The only correlation I see is that the polos are the same price as Warby Parker&#x27;s eyeglasses. In my mind, Warby Parker saves me a bunch of money over the alternatives. This is not the same buisness model.
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yapcguy超过 11 年前
Yawn.<p>Plenty of companies already sell custom shirts online. What&#x27;s the big deal about Vastrm? What&#x27;s revolutionary?<p>Also, what&#x27;s the big deal about Warby Parker? Just slick marketing and creation of a brand, but the same Chinese factories as used by CHEAP-GLASSES-FRAMES-DOT-COM.<p>EDIT:<p>Nice, a downvote after just a few seconds. Look, just because Vastrm is a YCombinator company doesn&#x27;t mean it gets a free ride.<p>The interviewer asks why Vastrm is special and after some mumbling about an iPhone app and custom algorithms, the CEO admits that it all comes down to letting the user pick a couple of shirts and returning the ones that don&#x27;t fit. Wow, why didn&#x27;t anyone think of that before?!<p>There is nothing special about Vastrm. They are using celebrity endorsements like Will Smith to pimp their brand but at the end of the day the shirt is still made in a sweat-shop in Thailand. Instead of paying Vastrm $115 for each polo shirt, you&#x27;re better off buying a plane ticket to Bangkok so you can enjoy a nice holiday whilst getting your custom suit, shirt and shoes made for a few bucks.
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sritch超过 11 年前
This is like Zappos or a ton of other companies that offer free return shipping.. very little correlation to Warby Parker as mentioned.
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danpalmer超过 11 年前
Being in the UK I haven&#x27;t had the chance to use Warby Parker, but I have used &quot;Glasses Online&quot; which is our equivalent from what I&#x27;ve heard (home try-on, good range, very good prices).<p>Looking at Vastrm, apart from the home try-on it doesn&#x27;t appear to be the same thing at all? The whole point (I thought) of the glasses retailers is getting great quality at realistic prices rather than prices that have been over inflated by the glasses monopoly that exists.<p>Vastrm on the other hand sells what look like good quality clothes at the same massively inflated fashion prices that other retailers sell at. $95 for a polo shirt? I&#x27;d expect more like $35 as a &#x27;surprising&#x27; price.<p>TLDR; I was quoted £140 ($220) for a pair of glasses, I went to the UK equivalent of Warby Parker and got nicer ones for £60... and they were &#x27;buy one get one free&#x27;, so essentially £30 a pair. That&#x27;s the sort of &#x27;surprise&#x27; that Vastrm needs to create, and $95 polo shirts aren&#x27;t going to do that.
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rdl超过 11 年前
Another interesting market for bespoke vs made-to-measure vs off the rack might be concealed carry. It is more of an issue for belts, and then kind of a toss up for pants and shirts. Unless you just go with skin tight clothing, it can be done with regular clothing now, but ccw and undercover people will spend a lot of money. It is a huge issue for women, though. (I know I&#x27;d probably never spend $80 on a regular belt, but I bought 3 without a second thought as gun belts, and I&#x27;ve bought $300 jackets for ccw or technical&#x2F;outdoor use but unless it is a suit from ww chan, wouldn&#x27;t spend it on regular clothing.)<p>People with physical deformities (what is a more polite way to say this?) could also be a market.
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larrys超过 11 年前
I&#x27;m not an expert on Warby Parker but I don&#x27;t see the connection.<p>Warby Parker took advantages of a business (eye glasses) which had greatly inflated prices and a few suppliers controlling the market. The shirt business isn&#x27;t the same - there is plenty of competition, price points, and availability of product.<p>I won&#x27;t make a guess on how good the vastrm idea is but it&#x27;s no warby parker.
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d_theorist超过 11 年前
I wish that sites like this would make it obvious (or easy to find out) what geographical area they serve without my having to work my way through a checkout process to figure it out.
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dadro超过 11 年前
I don&#x27;t see the connection either. Warby Parker provides an experience that differs from their competition (luxottica) and happens to be significantly cheaper. How is Vastrm any different than a company like BlankLabel?
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bryanh超过 11 年前
Recently got a Vastrm hoodie and it is really nice. It certainly feels great and fits great. I&#x27;ll likely wear it a ton, not sure why there is such negativity in this thread.
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biot超过 11 年前
I added a polo shirt to the cart and it showed up as £115.00, which is about $180 USD. Is this a currency typo?
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jonah超过 11 年前
I said it last time they where discussed here but that name scares my manhood. :(
7Figures2Commas超过 11 年前
I suppose I&#x27;m Vastrm&#x27;s target customer. I love polos and have a closet full of $100+ polos to prove it.<p>This said, I&#x27;m not really drawn to the offering:<p>1. I personally don&#x27;t have a problem with fit. Many brands already offer different options (i.e. classic, slim, ultra-slim) and I&#x27;d find it hard to believe that there is a large number of individuals in the target market who can&#x27;t find a brand that offers a satisfactory fit. If you&#x27;re interested in wearing attractive, comfortable clothing, identifying the brands and fits that you like really isn&#x27;t a big deal. And once you&#x27;ve done this, you generally don&#x27;t need to revisit.<p>2. This isn&#x27;t a suit. I have little interest in spending time designing a polo or seeking a more &quot;perfect&quot; fit for casualwear. Vastrm seems far less efficient than &quot;take a trip to the mall.&quot;<p>3. I wouldn&#x27;t consider myself a label snob, but the label and visible branding that often accompanies it is always reasonably going to be a part of the value proposition when it comes to clothing.
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larrys超过 11 年前
Since naming is my thing I will add that the choice of vastrm as a name is horrible.<p>An invented word is fine but it should either relate to the product or at least be memorable and easy to pass along by mention. Especially for a consumer product which is marketed in part on a web site.<p>I don&#x27;t know how to pronounce &quot;vastrm&quot; is it &quot;vastrem&quot; or &quot;vastrim&quot; or? ... and even if I did I&#x27;d have to spell it for someone since it&#x27;s not close to being a word. It&#x27;s a hack essentially.<p>Once again, they are, after all, selling to consumers.
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