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Ask HN: How does one prevent their start-up from being knocked-off?

7 点作者 abl将近 16 年前
Although this question has been on my mind for quite some time, the situation with twitvid.io http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=638526 prompted me to post it on HN.<p>I am posting this as a separate item because I didn't want to take attention away from the twitvid discussions, and I feel this particular topic deserves its own thread.<p>I know the obvious, generalized answers: patents, copyrights, trademarks, creating a strong brand, creating a following, blog, PR, SEO, making the product complicated, trade secrets, etc..<p>What I'd like to discuss instead, are unique ideas for barriers to entry. Also, real-life case scenarios and stories from YC founders and HN users, who have successfully spun-out their start-ups with competition high on their tails, about what they've done to leverage and to keep their first-mover advantage.

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pj将近 16 年前
Run faster. Work harder. Don't be lazy. Constant improvement.<p>Remember, you aren't <i>building a startup</i>, you are building a company. If you're only building a startup, then just write a few lines of code and push it out.<p>What do you really want? Do you always want to be a startup? Or do you want to be a business? Businesses aren't startups. Businesses are built to last decades. Are you looking for a quick exit?<p>Is that what you are really asking? How do you prevent another startup from exiting in your place?<p>Why are you even thinking about another startup? Envy? Greed? Do you want more users? Is it a competition?<p>What do you really want? It is impossible to prevent your startup from being knocked off. No number of patents or trademarks or copyrights are going to prevent someone from knocking off your startup.<p>Do you think Nike asks, "How do we prevent adidas from making tennis shoes?"<p>You should be asking, "How does one make a successful company? How does one last through the startup phase?" Neither of those questions have anything to do with competition.
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jmonegro将近 16 年前
You can't. You just have to make sure you're the <i>best</i>. Nothing has stopped people from trying to knock off Google, but because they're the best, they thrive. Same with Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, and all the other pop startups.
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barry-cotter将近 16 年前
&#60;flip&#62;Iterating and improving really, really fast.&#60;/flip&#62;<p>I have nothing remotely resembling any real insight into this, but for something like a pure play internet startup where the barriers to entry are pretty small, it seems like app quality, luck and bloody-minded perseverance are probably the most important factors and you only have any real control over two of those.<p>Web focused analysis follows<p>Patents - This is obviously great if you can get it, but I'd say the space of possible startup ideas that are coverable by patents that enable you to exploit monopoly power is a lot smaller than the ones that don't.<p>Copyrights - Well that'll stop someone stealing your <i>name</i>, but what else have you got? Maybe "look and feel" but even that pushes it. It also requires lawyers, which are well, expensive.<p>Creating a Strong Brand - Requires you to have enough users who like you to use your product and get some buzz. Reduces to building a good product.<p>Creating a Following _^_<p>Blog - That'll really help with your page rank in the beginning if you update regularly and is a way to build community but it doesn't really have anything to do with preventing knockoffs. If your stuff is good you'll get to the stage where the vast majority of your users aren't even aware you have a blog.<p>PR &#38; SEO - Worth doing only if you have something people will stick around for after they get to your site. You must have something there first.<p>Making the Product Complicated - You mean having solutions to non trivial problems baked into your product? Now <i>that</i> raises the barriers to cloning substantially. And unless you're solving a Hard Problem that has no value proposition (which would be a kick in the teeth if you discovered that was what you'd done afterwards) you've made your product better. As has been mentioned by pg, if you're considering two ways of doing something, one of which is harder, the harder one is almost certainly teh one to go for, because you're only considering it because you know it's <i>better</i>.<p>Trade Secrets - I was going to diss this one but it's actually among the best on the list, and is I think more or less the same as above.
justin_vanw将近 16 年前
Make something non-trivial.
trapper将近 16 年前
Make a product no one wants