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British scientists claimed to have found first evidence of alien life

19 点作者 nigekelly超过 11 年前

13 条评论

danmaz74超过 11 年前
"In the absence of a mechanism by which large particles like these can be transported to the stratosphere, we can only conclude that the biological entities originated from space" so, just because we don't KNOW of any mechanism by which large particles could be transported to the stratosphere, we conclude that the particles originated from space - even if we obviously don't KNOW of any mechanism by which life could originate from space and fall on Earth? This looks like very very weak reasoning.
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anigbrowl超过 11 年前
Paper: <a href="http://journalofcosmology.com/JOC22/milton_diatom.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;journalofcosmology.com&#x2F;JOC22&#x2F;milton_diatom.pdf</a><p>The journal of Cosmology is regarded as a low-quality publication by many scientists. I can&#x27;t judge the assertions in the paper but the methodology seems good.
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lutusp超过 11 年前
&gt; On its return they found organisms that were too large to have originated from Earth.<p>Too large? They had two choices -- too large and too small.<p>To be &quot;too large&quot;, the organism would have had to be larger than an ostrich egg yolk, the single-cell record-holder for size.<p>To be &quot;too small&quot;, the cells would have to be very small indeed -- the smallest earthly cells are extremely small.<p>In any case, if the cell has DNA, it&#x27;s from here, so first run the test, find the DNA, then don&#x27;t publish this ridiculous claim.<p>&quot;Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.&quot; -- Carl Sagan
alphaBetaGamma超过 11 年前
If they have protein in their samples and find amino acids of both chirality, then get exited. If they only find the chirality naturally occurring in earth based life: forgetaboutit<p>My bet is on the latter.
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_of超过 11 年前
Until they do more rigorous analysis of this it is not convincing.
strictfp超过 11 年前
One possible mechanism would be a weather balloon.
BoppreH超过 11 年前
Published on the Journal of Cosmology: <a href="http://journalofcosmology.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;journalofcosmology.com&#x2F;</a><p>Wikipedia lists no less than 6 references questioning the credibility of this journal (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journal_of_Cosmology#Reliability" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Journal_of_Cosmology#Reliabili...</a>).<p>I think this discovery should be taken with a very large grain of salt.
nerfhammer超过 11 年前
Meanwhile, a more reputable report against life on Mars:<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/science/space/mars-rover-comes-up-empty-in-search-for-methane.html?hp" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;09&#x2F;20&#x2F;science&#x2F;space&#x2F;mars-rover-c...</a>
bayesianhorse超过 11 年前
They should do sequencing and metagenomics on this alleged alien life.<p>Strands, sequences, twisting, separating, joining. Abathur would be pleased...<p>Honk if you played Heart of The Swarm...
fleitz超过 11 年前
Life is constantly surprising us, it&#x27;s well known that there is bacteria on the outside of the ISS, it could well be that life is falling down rather than up.<p>I&#x27;d like to see a DNA sample that doesn&#x27;t point to existing earth life, for me just seeing diatoms seems a little too early to reach this conclusion.
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luscious超过 11 年前
I wonder what it smells like. Does it get happy or sad?
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bencollier49超过 11 年前
It&#x27;s life, but it doesn&#x27;t have DNA to test?
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DanielBMarkham超过 11 年前
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, but still, this is good to see.<p>I imagine this discussion in the scientific community will go on for many years, perhaps decades. I&#x27;m still not convinced that Viking didn&#x27;t find some evidence of life on Mars back in the 70s.