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Twitter Quitters And The Unfiltered Feed Problem

50 点作者 aelaguiz超过 11 年前

17 条评论

ProblemFactory超过 11 年前
Automated filtering approaches like Facebook&#x27;s edgerank are a band-aid fix for fundamentally wrong user interface. For me, there is no content on the internet that is time-critical and <i>has</i> to be consumed in the order it was posted, or as soon as it was posted.<p>The great thing about the Google Reader interface was that you can sign up to 300 blogs, and see which ones have new posts in the left hand column. You read the interesting ones every few days, and perhaps scroll through the headlines of the boring ones once per month.<p>This way no post goes missing because it is too old, a frequent poster doesn&#x27;t take priority over an infrequent but more interesting one, and the user decides how to &quot;filter&quot; content based on every visit.
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protomyth超过 11 年前
I do wonder, if Twitter hadn&#x27;t gone psycho on the twitter clients, if this problem would have been solved. Twitter stopped most development on this issue for anyone outside Twitter.
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TillE超过 11 年前
This is a huge problem, IMO. It only takes one or two noisy accounts to flood your feed on a regular basis. There are a handful of people I really don&#x27;t want to unfollow, but they tend to dominate my feed even when they&#x27;re not completely overwhelming it.<p>All I really want is the ability to designate certain follows as &quot;important&quot;, which would give me their tweets in something like the format of an RSS reader at the top of the page. Then dump the rest into the current &quot;river of news&quot; style which I can wade through, or not.
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ilamont超过 11 年前
I&#x27;ve always wondered how people who follow thousands of people are able to get much value from their timelines. I&#x27;ve concluded that they don&#x27;t, or they are using lists or other tools to manage their Twitter experience.<p>Speaking of lists, I disagree with the author&#x27;s claim that they are hard to set up. Twitter (and many Twitter apps) have made a list quite easy to set up, and monitor. Doing this is one way to handle the unfiltered feed problem.<p>He brings up an interesting point, though, regarding negative behaviors such as being less likely to follow new people. I agree that this can happen, but the flip side is people may be far more selective about who they follow as time goes on. Assuming that such users are regularly unfollowing bad or spammy accounts, their Twitter experience should improve over time.
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pastProlog超过 11 年前
One phenomenon which Facebook takes into account which Twitter does not is that of the loquacious acquaintance, possibly someone with a business constantly hyping things, possibly someone who just likes to hear themselves speak more often than I do. They apply slight pressure to me to follow them on Twitter or friend them on Facebook so I do so.<p>On Facebook I can easily set people to three settings which are private to me - read everything they write, read only significant things they write (things which get more than ordinary likes&#x2F;replies, or whatever), or ignore them. This is great for me, otherwise my entire Facebook feed would be filled with my 4-5 chattiest friends or current&#x2F;former coworkers, I&#x27;d have to scroll through their collective 10-12 posts a day to see anyone elses, etc.<p>Twitter does not have this option where I publicly follow someone, due to them pressuring me to follow them on Twitter, but where I can actually privately ignore them. Which just tends to mean I use Twitter less. Maybe there is an option buried somewhere where I can do this, but it&#x27;s definitely not obvious like on Facebook. Which just means I use Twitter a lot less. Because all it is for me is a constant stream of 4-5 chatty acquaintances with the dozens of others I follow popping in once in a while.<p>There are ways to deal with this on Twitter, but none of them are that good. I can create another account, but then there are problems from that - accounts with private tweets I no longer have access to or have to ask for two adds from everyone etc. I can create a private list without these people on it, but then I have to go to the trouble of maintaining two lists - the main list and the private list. Facebook just makes this a lot easier.
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Terretta超过 11 年前
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teaneedz超过 11 年前
The OP is trying to solve a problem with a FB mentality. Twitter is a different animal. Lists solve many problems. Twitter could do a better job surfacing lists and making them easier to implement and return to, but we the users have a responsibility too I believe. We often complain about spammy accounts or unmanageable TLs when <i>we</i> control the Follow button.
lucb1e超过 11 年前
There should be a distinction between friends and followers. I&#x27;d friend many more people, but I don&#x27;t give a shit about most friend&#x27;s tweets. (Most of them are about their current dinner, or something equally unimportant.) I think I currently follow around 15 people, and that&#x27;s exactly right for how often I check my feed and how much time I want to spend on twitter.<p>So for me this works is fine, but I know many others that follow for social reasons, not because the person they start following is interesting. And if you do that, yes indeed your timeline will be overflowing all the time.<p>I&#x27;ve never not followed anyone for having too many tweets in my timeline already. And if someone starts spamming shit I don&#x27;t care about (accounts with lots of followers sometimes abuse it for political or other things), I unfollow them without second thought. And I let them know why I unfollowed (like with downvotes here and on stackoverflow, I always try to comment if I do negative actions).
utnick超过 11 年前
I&#x27;ve wanted a twitter client similar to the old aim clients with respect to away messages.<p>Just a list of people I follow and their most recent tweet. Either ordered alphabetically or ordered by date last tweeted. If I hover over one of the people , then I can look at their past X tweets.
mikegioia超过 11 年前
The author&#x27;s suggestion here to fix this problem is to have twitter offer feed cleaning tools and un-follow recommendations. Not only will this never happen, but it could create far too many false positives to even be a good thing.<p>I think the only way out of this is for twitter to put out 1 or a series of lenses with which to view your feed. People still want to follow all of their friends as well as celebrities, athletes, bands, news aggregators, etc; however, they don&#x27;t need to see all of that crap in one feed. I think it&#x27;ll be the redditization of twitter that solves this problem.
b123400超过 11 年前
Personally I don&#x27;t think Twitter cares much about the quality of users&#x27; timeline.<p>Twitter doesn&#x27;t provide any easy way to manage followings while keep suggesting people to follow, because promoted accounts will be unfollowed easily.<p>I am one of the user in the official popular users list in China region, but most of my tweets are Japanese. This kind of careless mistake should not happen if they had do a simple review before selecting me. I&#x27;ve ask them to remove me from the list, but they never reply.<p>They seems to encourage users to keep following, increase the quantity not quality.
joe_the_user超过 11 年前
I am a pretty heavy Facebook user and can&#x27;t see the slightest use in Twitter. Or rather, it seems like an actively awful thing.<p>Facebook already <i>allows</i> and even encourages short posts. Forcing them seems like recipe to produce horrid dreck and that does seem just like what Twitter does.
amrnt超过 11 年前
I write an article before about this issue that we have with most of the social networks: <a href="https://medium.com/editors-picks/b5eaaa3ff7c3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;editors-picks&#x2F;b5eaaa3ff7c3</a>
whyleyc超过 11 年前
This problem is addressed by tools like <a href="http://www.qureet.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.qureet.com&#x2F;</a><p>Disclaimer: I&#x27;ve met the guy who runs this, but haven&#x27;t yet got round to trying it out.
Zakuzaa超过 11 年前
Is there potential for a third party app doing it (the fixes mentioned in the article) instead?
BurritoAlPastor超过 11 年前
The second sentence of this article is false. When the lede contains blatant errors, that&#x27;s your signal, as a reader, to stop reading.
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untilHellbanned超过 11 年前
everything goes through FB goggles with this author