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Show HN: I made a site that lets you bet against Bitcoin Hash Rate Volatility

128 点作者 locksley超过 11 年前

22 条评论

6thSigma超过 11 年前
Is this legal in America?<p>Edit: Why the downvotes? I&#x27;m curious if they got an opinion from a lawyer on the legality of their site.
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downandout超过 11 年前
The issue with this is that it appears the site is being hosted in Wilmington, DE. Since this is not a game of skill, it is almost certainly illegal to operate within that state and the states of all of those that bet from the US. Since it is illegal under state laws, the federal UIGEA (unlawful internet gaming enforcement act) also applies. It could move to a futures market model, but as it stands right now, a number of federal or state jurisdictions could press charges. I&#x27;d suggest, at least, that you move it offshore. That won&#x27;t make it any more legal to take bets from US residents, but it will at least slow them down trying to track you and make it much more difficult to obtain evidence etc. If you don&#x27;t want legal hassles, take it offline.
IanCal超过 11 年前
I&#x27;m somewhat confused with the calculation on paying out. Betting 1 BTC pays out:<p><pre><code> Bet above: 2.2284 BTC Bet below: 1.0903 BTC </code></pre> So... I always win?<p>Edit - I&#x27;m an idiot, and forgot I&#x27;d have to bet <i>twice</i>.
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CodeCube超过 11 年前
Very cool! I&#x27;m curious what tech&#x2F;lib&#x2F;api&#x2F;sdk you&#x27;re using to automate sending payments (ie. in the case you stated of someone betting over 1btc)?
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joosters超过 11 年前
One suggestion: The site needs to be much clearer about the betting time period and the time period that is being bet <i>on</i>. I can&#x27;t see anywhere on the front page that explains this. I had to go to the detailed betting breakdown to work out how the time periods even work.<p>If you can&#x27;t tell exactly what you&#x27;re betting on on the front page, you shouldn&#x27;t expect people to bet on it!
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phogster超过 11 年前
&quot;After 9.10% House Fees Deducted&quot;<p>Isn&#x27;t that a little high?
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eloff超过 11 年前
Is anyone else thinking with cloud computing and the right amount of seed money, you could bump the numbers before the round ends, raking in your winnings + whatever the cloud mines in the hour you run it for?
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fmax30超过 11 年前
Interesting , it may be illegal but it can also be cheated by a sort of insider trading. Say i own a number of ASIC miners , I turn them off , and then bet for a number higher than the one expected by the public at large . At the very last moment i turn all of my ASIC miners on. I make money with &gt; 95 % probability.
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bachback超过 11 年前
One important question is: could one create a short BTC contract at a reasonable price? so that when I hold BTC I&#x27;m not subject to the downsides? For every short someone holding BTC would have to find long exposure which a BTC holder wants to give up. I&#x27;m not sure its possible, I don&#x27;t think so.
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stuhood超过 11 年前
@locksley: Couldn&#x27;t the operator of blockchain.info game this by manipulating the output of their API?
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taternuts超过 11 年前
Kudo&#x27;s my friend, this is really cool idea, and it&#x27;s also really well done. I think this would still be fun even if it were just for internet brownie points, but actually being able to bet btc is awesome - maybe I&#x27;ll take the btc fortune (.3 btc) and let it ride :)
tomw1808超过 11 年前
Cool idea, suddenly want to buy bitcoins just to participate :)<p>1,648,531 GH&#x2F;s is the current target. I can bet below or above that. It maybe sound odd, because I am not really into the Bitcoins, but what (in the very uncertain case) if the target is hit (neither below or above)?
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IceyEC超过 11 年前
Don&#x27;t bet more than 8 Bitcoins because you can never win in your detailed example?
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dllthomas超过 11 年前
Is this just purely a source of mutually-verifiable entropy for pure-entertainment bets, or is there something people can use these numbers for &#x2F; something people can use this as a hedge against &#x2F; &amp;c. ?
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knodi超过 11 年前
Big enough player can guarantee a result. Luckily only 1 coin limit so far.
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sida超过 11 年前
Good work. Pretty cool site.<p>This is cool: &quot;Our long term goal is to build an open derivative platform that anyone can participate in. &quot;<p>Not that I don&#x27;t trust you guys. Is there a way that I can test the site?
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benmanns超过 11 年前
How does the parimutuel betting work? If I bet now, am I guaranteed the &quot;Betting X Pays Out&quot; amount if I am right, or does that change with more bets on either side?
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drakaal超过 11 年前
Illegally bet on a possibly illegal currency the same week Silk road gets raided... What could possibly go wrong?
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grogenaut超过 11 年前
Good way for mining groups to make money during downtime: bet then go for maintenance &#x2F; upgrades.
dllthomas超过 11 年前
Is &quot;Locksley&quot; meant to be a play on Dread Pirate Roberts (characters played by Cary Elwes)?
jboggan超过 11 年前
What country are you operating from?
tpainton超过 11 年前
one thing I have learned. proving your legal is very, very expensive .