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US adults score below average on worldwide test

35 点作者 Kilo-byte超过 11 年前

14 条评论

BlobbleBlab超过 11 年前
Quote from the article:<p>&quot;America&#x27;s school kids have historically scored low on international assessment tests compared to other countries, which is often blamed on the diversity of the population and the high number of immigrants.&quot;<p>America&#x27;s diversity is a creation myth. Outside of New York, it isn&#x27;t very diverse at all, and compared to Western Europe it doesn&#x27;t have a very high number of immigrants.<p>Or does the American definition of &#x27;diversity&#x27; only refer to the number of black people? In that case, blaming their numbers for lower test scores is kind of ... racist, isn&#x27;t it?
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tzs超过 11 年前
&gt; The findings were equally grim for many European countries — Italy and Spain, among the hardest hit by the recession and debt crisis, ranked at the bottom across generations. Unemployment is well over 25 percent in Spain and over 12 percent in Italy. Spain has drastically cut education spending, drawing student street protests.<p>I&#x27;m not sure what they are getting at here. High unemployment, being hard hit by the recession and debt crisis, and recently cutting education would not affect adult reading, math, and problem solving skills, so I don&#x27;t think they are offering those as an explanation for those countries doing poorly on these tests.<p>Are they implying that because Spanish and Italian results are not as good as their neighbors they were not as capable as handling the recession and debt crisis, and so were hit harder?
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Deestan超过 11 年前
&gt; It&#x27;s long been known that America&#x27;s school kids haven&#x27;t measured well compared with international peers. Now, there&#x27;s a new twist: Adults don&#x27;t either.<p>That&#x27;s not a twist. It&#x27;s the <i>exact same statement</i> just 10 years later.
DominikR超过 11 年前
The strength of an economy rarely depends on the education or knowledge of the masses.<p>Often it&#x27;s just access to natural resources or the ability to get access by force. (otherwise I would have to assume that neolithic societies like those we find in Saudi Arabia or Qatar would have one of the best educated populations out there)<p>As long as the US is able to sustain its military apparatus and educate the top 1% well enough so they can innovate on technology they&#x27;ll do fine.<p>It&#x27;s not as if no one knew that US education for the masses is average at best, but it didn&#x27;t matter in the last decades, and it probably wont matter in the future.
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w3dt超过 11 年前
This isn&#x27;t surprising since in US, you get what you pay for. In Sweden for example everyone gets the same treatment in school, healthcare etc. Sure would you only count the top 1% Sweden would probably fall below US. But without that the rest of the 99% gets an higher rate.
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cLeEOGPw超过 11 年前
I don&#x27;t live in US, but I think it&#x27;s not very fair to measure US with separate countries. It would make more sense to measure separate states. Because if you take EU as a whole you would get worse result too.
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dwaltrip超过 11 年前
It would be nice if they explained how &quot;scoring below average&quot; results in &quot;an underclass that is basically unemployable&quot;. The absolute measurements are what matter most. Everything else is pride, folly, and excessive nationalism. Although I suppose healthy competition could occasionally help us move further along the right path.
Samuel_Michon超过 11 年前
Lately, I have noticed several US news publications referring to the Netherlands and Belgium as being situated in Northern Europe. That bugs me, they’re actually in Western Europe.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Europe" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Northern_Europe</a><p>From Brussels to the nearest Scandinavian country, Denmark, is a 10 hour drive.<p>Here’s the paragraph I’m referring to: <i>“But in the northern European countries that have fared better, the picture was brighter — and the study credits continuing education. In Finland, Denmark, and the Netherlands, more than 60 percent of adults took part in either job training or continuing education.”</i><p>(I’ll refrain from making the obvious jokes about Americans being bad at general geography.)
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rob_mccann超过 11 年前
Measured reading, maths &amp; problem solving.<p>What about, creativity, critical thinking and arts? Harder to quantify, but just as important.
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ChrisAntaki超过 11 年前
It&#x27;s interesting that American adults are ranking 17th in problem solving on these tests. Still, I wonder... how much bearing does a problem solving test question have on actual, modern day problems?<p>George Carlin&#x27;s thoughts: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jQT7_rVxAE" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=4jQT7_rVxAE</a>
hacknat超过 11 年前
<i>Sigh</i> Yet another US Education hit piece. I love reading these because they all have the same myopic trope:<p>1. Other countries score better on subject tests than the US on average.<p>2. This has traditionally been blamed on the USA&#x27;s high diversity and immigrant population.<p>3. Cue policy expert giving us a dire warning about how there are no politically tenable solutions to the US education crisis.<p>4. Cue 2nd policy expert talking about how devastating the skills gap will be on the economy.<p>Can someone give us a different angle?
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jdimov超过 11 年前
This is only news if you live in America, I guess :) It&#x27;s common knowledge around the rest of the world. In fact, it has become somewhat of a defining characteristic of what it means to be american.
stuaxo超过 11 年前
It would be interesting to see that list, against the amount each govt spends on health, education etc...
onion2k超过 11 年前
Was the test in Japanese? That would explain the results. :)