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Drone Pilot Fights for Right to Profit in the Unmanned Skies

48 点作者 0cool超过 11 年前

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JshWright超过 11 年前
I&#x27;ve been exploring the idea of using a multirotor &#x27;drone&#x27; to improve the situational awareness of the command and operations officers on the scene of events like house fires.<p>Listen to the radio traffic from a typical residential house fire, and you&#x27;ll find a non-trivial amount of the traffic is simply people trying to explain what they&#x27;re seeing from their vantage point (e.g. changing smoke&#x2F;fire conditions on the rear of the structure, imminent collapse of a portion of the roof, etc).<p>A multirotor with a gimbeled camera orbiting a few dozen meters above the scene could dramatically improve the chief officer&#x27;s visibility of the event, increasing safety, and allowing for better tactical decisions.<p>This article lays out some of the largest issues I&#x27;ve run into.
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headShrinker超过 11 年前
I&#x27;m a photographer and programmer in NYC. I have been building multicopters and flying them for the past two years. Now I&#x27;m starting to amass some more expensive camera equipment, gimbals and transmitters, which leads me to the question of were I can go with this professionally. Currently we hobbyists are legally prohibited from charging for aerial video or even still photography. The technology is getting to the point were when UAVs are setup and used properly are very stable, and the footage is second to none. Here is the best examples I have seen. <a href="http://vimeo.com/66036452" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;vimeo.com&#x2F;66036452</a><p>The recent NYC drone crash brings the major issues right to the surface; safety. Unfortunately, it&#x27;s only going to get worse without regulation. I wish that weren&#x27;t the case. A license that isn&#x27;t to hard to get should be required within city limits.<p>All that said the next issue that comes up is privacy. It&#x27;s too early to know how bad this issue will become. On top of all the technical hurdles to flying, there is no way around the fact that drones are noisy. Most of the time, I am flying a multicopter in public people come over and talk to me about them. After they get over the sheer amusement of watching it fly, one of the first things they want to express is the potential for this thing to violate their privacy. Ironically, the government is actively running an extensive spying program on them, but their fears seem targeted on little Timmy down the street flying out side their window. This is obviously irrational.
vermontdevil超过 11 年前
I hope he prevails. There&#x27;s room for commercialization of drones.<p>Remember the Internet was not allowed to engage in commerce which was understandable as it was in research development back then. Took an Act of Congress to move it along.<p>I can see this happening hopefully but within a reasonable regulatory framework. How reasonable remains to be seen.
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modfodder超过 11 年前
I wonder what happens if the IRS categorizes your filmmaking as a hobby as they can with documentary filmmakers? Does that cancel out the FAA&#x27;s categorizing a filmmaker as a commercial interest (or vice versa)?<p>More a rhetorical question concerning stupid policies from two separate government agencies.<p>ref: <a href="http://www.indiewire.com/article/ida_issues_amicus_brief_on_behalf_of_audited_documentary_filmmaker" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indiewire.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;ida_issues_amicus_brief_on_...</a>
mattfff超过 11 年前
Unfortunately the guy suing the FAA in this case has a pretty bad rep in the hobby, he&#x27;s the same guy that was flying a delta-wing (same Ritewing platform discussed in the article) in a super busy helicopter corridor in NYC a couple years ago, while claiming that he had &quot;notified the authorities&quot;. However, the only agency he failed to notify was in fact the only one with jurisdiction, the FAA. He seems hell-bent on being allowed to do whatever he wants to do, however reckless, which is going to cause long term harm to this industry and hobby.<p>I have a commercial-grade (several $k) multirotor designed for large cameras as well as two couple gopro-scale helis and fixed wing platforms, and I have to admit that based on some hardware failures (not pilot error, I can admit those) that I&#x27;ve experienced, I&#x27;ve gotten pretty leery of flying in some of the situations that people seem to want to use these most: sporting events, parades, concerts, weddings, etc. They simply aren&#x27;t that reliable yet, and beyond that pilot skill is highly variable. Just because you can scrape together $1k to buy or build a multirotor doesn&#x27;t mean you&#x27;re fit to fly one anywhere near another human.<p>I&#x27;ve also flown full-scale aircraft, and while I tend to be suspicious of regulation, I do believe that some degree of oversight is necessary to do this safely, and that has been demonstrated in commercial aviation. Some type of demonstrated proficiency and equipment standards would go a long way towards making sure that this can be done safely. If we don&#x27;t do something like that, I&#x27;m afraid that a few bad incidents are going to make this something that could become entirely illegal at any kind of small scale (i.e. nothing smaller than a Predator fielded by a well-connected corporation), which would be a terrible loss.<p>Privacy is a whole different issue, and something that I think has been blown out of proportion in comparison to the safety aspects, which are my main concern...
0cool超过 11 年前
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UEJd8_7Nyw" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1UEJd8_7Nyw</a>
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acomjean超过 11 年前
I think there needs to be some regulations in place. As a photographer I love the idea of getting a drone and taking arial shots. The gps enabled, easy to fly, set to hover in place is very cool. but...<p>They can be dangerous and can fall out of the sky with disastrous and fatal results.<p><a href="http://gothamist.com/2013/09/06/teen_killed_by_remote_control_chopp.php" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;gothamist.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;09&#x2F;06&#x2F;teen_killed_by_remote_contro...</a>
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malandrew超过 11 年前
Out of curiosity, how many drone accidents are there per year that don&#x27;t involve the drone pilot?<p>I have never heard of a single accident, yet everyone wants to regulate them heavily, even in situations where only the participants in their usage are at risk, like the boat video linked in that article.<p>They really only need to worry about defining privacy limitations. It should be okay to film in public spaces or private spaces where you are authorized to film.
angersock超过 11 年前
For anyone curious about an example of this being done, check out this behind-the-scenes footage:<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_711646&amp;feature=iv&amp;index=1&amp;list=PL84DB158CAABE4E07&amp;src_vid=rNm6qGwx5kI&amp;v=3bCSxwZf4-k" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?annotation_id=annotation_711646...</a><p>They use a drone in lieu of the crazy camera crane and gantry thingies, and get some pretty awesome shots.<p>I suspect that drones are going to really transform the way we make low- to mid- budget shoots.<p>I&#x27;m loathe to allow the FAA more authority over the little guys--this sort of anti-drone stuff really will only impact hobbyists and makers. The rest of the folks, the ones who can actually profit off of mass surveillance and whatnot, the .gov&#x27;s and BigCos, they are going to do it anyway.
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tzs超过 11 年前
One of the uses they mention for commercial drones is monitoring things on large farms.<p>If the drone takes off from the farm, lands on the farm, and in between stays within the boundary of the farm and stays low enough to not intrude on the airspace where manned planes can legally fly, is it still subject to FAA regulation?
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negativity超过 11 年前
I would rather be on a flight, where I know that the pilots dies with me, should they fail in their appointed task of controlling the aircraft strapped to their bodies.<p>Similarly, if an aircraft suddenly falls from the sky and lands on my head, my death would be a slightly happier affair for my family, so long as they know the person charged with it&#x27;s stewardship was also killed (or at least injured) by the accident.<p>Even though a robot, or hybrid system of remote and autonomous flight control might prove to be statistically more reliable, I find it preferable when the burden of having lives hang in the balance is shared equally among all participants, even when the human in control might be feeling drunk and slightly suicidal on some grey Monday morning, perhaps after a recently emerging from a messy, dehumanizing divorce.<p>Am I alone in feeling oddly reassured by this grim social contract?
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gaius超过 11 年前
From the headline, I assumed this would be about drone strike pilots demanding flight pay.