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Research Finds Outright Grants of Cash are an Effective Form of Aid to the Poor

178 点作者 jervisfm超过 11 年前

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cjbprime超过 11 年前
If you find this persuasive, consider donating to <a href="http://www.givedirectly.org/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.givedirectly.org&#x2F;</a>, which performs unconditional cash transfers to the poorest people in Kenya.<p>Give Directly is the subject of this writeup[1] on GiveWell, and this excellent episode[2] of This American Life.<p>[1]: <a href="http://www.givewell.org/international/top-charities/give-directly" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.givewell.org&#x2F;international&#x2F;top-charities&#x2F;give-dir...</a><p>[2]: <a href="http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/503/i-was-just-trying-to-help" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thisamericanlife.org&#x2F;radio-archives&#x2F;episode&#x2F;503&#x2F;i...</a>
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asperous超过 11 年前
I think the context is super important here. &quot;gave cash to groups of young people so they could learn a trade and start their own businesses.&quot; In Uganda.<p>These people were pretty much starving before. “These were mostly farmers who had work 10 to 20 hours a week and earned about $1 a day,&quot;<p>With different people, culture, attitudes, environment the effect might be completely different in America, for example.
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hristov超过 11 年前
The problem with cash grants is something that does not show up when there is a Columbia professor watching things. And that is that the money gets stolen.<p>Many poor countries suffer from corrupt callous and cruel leadership. And this means that the people in power tend to steal from the poor. Thus, if some organization tries to give cash to the poor there is a high likelihood that the money will be stolen and sent to a swiss bank.<p>It is much more difficult to steal bags of grain with &quot;US AID&quot; printed on them. They are heavy transport is expensive and no-one will pay full price for bags of grains that say US AID on them because they will know it is stolen. If you want to re-bag the grain, it will be a lot of work, and you will have to hire many workers some of which may inform the US embassy. Thus, once the US government dumps a bunch of grain in a poor place, even the evil corrupt warlords tend to leave most of it to the poor because it is too difficult to steal it and sell it.<p>There is a similar problem with cash crops. Initially when I heard activists complain about cash crops, I said &quot;what is the problem? Farmers should farm cash crops in order to get the maximum amount of money for their land and labor.&quot; Well the problem is that if you plant cash crops (such as coffee, cocoa, etc.) you have to sell them to get some money out of them. But the local corrupt official and&#x2F;or warlord will take control of all the merchants and make sure the farmers receive very little and take most of the money for himself. If, on the other hand the farmers plant ordinary food, it is very difficult for warlord to steal it. He will have to make his troops do actual agriculture work to steal the food, and they hate that.<p>So this will only work for countries with relatively strong civil society and there are very few of those among the poor countries.
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jasonlmk超过 11 年前
A similar research based on the land lotteries in Georgia in 1832 and in Oklahoma in 1901 showed that outright increases in wealth (i.e., winning the lottery) had little or no effect on generational wealth. There was also another similar research on the land lotteries which showed negative effect on generational wealth.<p><a href="http://www.stanford.edu/group/SITE/archive/SITE_2010/segment_5/segment_5_papers/bleakley.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.stanford.edu&#x2F;group&#x2F;SITE&#x2F;archive&#x2F;SITE_2010&#x2F;segment...</a>
yaix超过 11 年前
The only way countries have &#x2F;ever&#x2F; developed is by the production of value, products that a market wants to buy, usually an export market. Handing out free money doesn&#x27;t help to achieve that goal. It just perpetualtes dependence.<p>It seems to be the &quot;new hip thing&quot; within the aid-industrial complex, though. I hope it will not do too much damage to these societies, like many of the previous &quot;effective forms of aid&quot; did.
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argumentum超过 11 年前
This is only &quot;surprising&quot; to those who think they know how other people should live. I&#x27;ve always favored this approach (a minimum income, or negative income tax .. whatever you want to call it) as a replacement to all other forms of welfare.<p>If I am to spend my tax money on those in need, I do not want more than half of it going to upper middle class bureaucrats and middle class administrators.
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ig1超过 11 年前
I&#x27;ve only read the article and not the underlying paper, but it seems to be saying a $400 grant yields an average annual return of 40% - it would seem that would make it viable as a loan scheme rather than a grant scheme (maybe in terms of a loan that automatically gets written off after X years so it&#x27;s a pseudo-grant).<p>It&#x27;s important to note also that they&#x27;re using the group effect that are also popular among microlenders, in that the grants are made to groups of individuals so you&#x27;ll have some degrees of the individuals checking up on each other.
mh_yam超过 11 年前
It&#x27;s all about state of mind. People who actually want to make a living, start businesses, create wealth, and live responsibly VS those who just want to be parasites. Attitude is what matters...
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skadamat超过 11 年前
Kiva.org anyone? I&quot;m shocked this hasn&#x27;t come up in this thread
sandGorgon超过 11 年前
I remember there was an article on HN not so long back about why poor people dont trust banks. Well, without bank accounts how do you process billions of dollars of micro-cash payments ?<p>Actually, this is the biggest reason for the build out of the Aadhaar project or the Indian biometric ID project. It is less for reasons of trying to track the common citizen (although I dont doubt for a moment, it will come to be used like that), but to ensure credible, direct debit of cash to the poor.
pesenti超过 11 年前
I wonder if this could be applied to rich countries: give $500&#x2F;month to each adult citizen. No questions asked. Unlike many existing programs for the very poor (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenu_minimum_d&#x27;insertion" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Revenu_minimum_d&#x27;insertion</a>) it would not dissuade them from working (if you work you just earn more) and would be really easy to administrate (there are no criteria).
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aaronchriscohen超过 11 年前
I wonder if requiring applicants to &quot;form a group with others in their village and submit a proposal showing how they planned to use the money&quot; had anything to do with their success. It&#x27;s not like they just dropped money out of a plane. And the fact that these grants were funded by a World Bank loan seems to undercut the headline even more.
dualogy超过 11 年前
Just from the headline, I thought this would be an Onion article..
sliverstorm超过 11 年前
The one-time grant model seems like it could be important; you don&#x27;t develop the whole cargo cult dependence when it is a one-time windfall only.
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