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Show HN: Unibox, the people-centric email client released on the Mac App Store

25 点作者 lassejansen超过 11 年前

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pavlov超过 11 年前
Looks quite nice, but I&#x27;m not going to try it without a free trial.<p>Changing email clients is a major chore, and I suspect that there&#x27;s a good chance I might return to my boring old mail client after the initial delight of the new client wears off... With those odds, paying $10 for software that I probably won&#x27;t end up using is not appealing.<p>Also, I feel that the word &quot;beautiful&quot; should be banished from app marketing copy. There are many things in this world that are beautiful, but I hope my threshold for beauty never gets so low that a grid view of email attachments would qualify -- that sounds like a state of mental disorder, experiencing Stendhal syndrome when faced with a GUI.
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drcongo超过 11 年前
Hacker News comments are incredibly depressing sometimes. This costs less than I spend on lunch most days, and looks like a lot of love and attention has gone into creating it. So first off, congratulations on shipping it. Secondly, I&#x27;ve just bought it – I&#x27;ll take it for a spin and let you know how I get on.
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bbx超过 11 年前
Is email still people-centric? Looking at the 25 latest messages of my inbox, only 8 are from <i>real</i> persons. The rest comprises 5 newsletters and 12 notifications.<p>Close friends I contact via SMS mostly, and other friends I contact maybe twice every 6 months.<p>Maybe my email usage is unusual, I don&#x27;t know. Still, Unibox&#x27;s market is a niche. Good luck to them though. It&#x27;s always interesting to see new approaches towards a medium as old as email.
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jsdalton超过 11 年前
I love it in principle. I actually dove in and purchased it since I&#x27;ve wanted for so long an email client built around people.<p>I have a few criticism after actually using it (admittedly for only a few minutes here):<p>* The lack of an &quot;Inbox&quot; is disconcerting. It actually really is important to me to just see a list of emails in my inbox, most recent on top, with unread messages marked as such.<p>* People centric is great, but conversation centric is equally important. Apple Mail and Gmail get high marks on organizing emails by conversation thread, but both I found lacking in their organization by person. This app has the opposite problem: It&#x27;s great for viewing emails by person, but that&#x27;s like the ONLY feature. I really strongly dislike how it munges together different conversation threads under a person, which at the same time <i>excludes</i> other emails from other people that were part of that thread.<p>Maybe they&#x27;ll add these features later but for now I&#x27;ll probably slink back to Apple Mail and maybe keep an eye on it.<p>YMMV
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Touche超过 11 年前
Wow, the autodetect is pretty amazing. I&#x27;m using Fastmail with my own domain but it correctly knew which servers to use. I always thought that email clients just look at the domain and if it&#x27;s gmail.com, yahoo.com, it uses those settings, but it sounds like this is checking MX records? Any insight into how it&#x27;s able to do this (never seen another client be able to)?
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drcongo超过 11 年前
First impressions are very good. It&#x27;s extremely smooth and responsive, the experience when replying to an email is excellent, and it feels an awful lot lighter than Mail. The people paradigm in the sidebar didn&#x27;t take a lot of getting used to though it&#x27;ll take a fair bit more use before I can decide whether I prefer it. At the moment it feels to me like there&#x27;s another sidebar missing, one that would take me directly into conversations.<p>Only drawbacks I&#x27;ve found so far: search seems to make it go a bit sluggish and it&#x27;s not that easy to actually find what you&#x27;re after. I seem to have sent it into some kind of spin by hitting the sync button which brought up this error:<p>An error occured while syncing account [redacted] (2001):<p>Could not parse command<p>Overall though, I&#x27;m liking it and I&#x27;ll give it a go as my primary email client for a while to see if it can replace Mail for me.
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john2x超过 11 年前
I&#x27;ve been looking for a replacement for Sparrow ever since they got acquired. All of the ones I&#x27;ve tried were very &quot;choppy&quot; compared to how smooth Sparrow is. I hope they offer a demo so I can try it out.
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akrymski超过 11 年前
Full disclosure: I&#x27;m at a YC startup working on a people-centric email service at Post.fm<p>Great to finally see some people adopting a similar approach to us, however the real trick is figuring out the balance between threads and people. Simply grouping emails by people doesn&#x27;t work for most professionals who often have threads with multiple people. This is one problem that&#x27;s taken us years to solve - and only now we finally have an algo that gets the right balance I believe.<p>Interesting fact - Post.fm used to be called unipost.com, so unibox is a very interesting name :)
skore超过 11 年前
I will never understand the persistent fetish to make E-Mail more like Instant Messaging. Sure, if you only send emails that are a couple of sentences this might make sense. But that&#x27;s not what people use email for. That&#x27;s what they use one of the bazillion IM services for. And the IM GUI vocabulary breaks down very quickly for real world email use.<p>The abstract root of the problem with &quot;let&#x27;s reinvent email clients&quot; to me is this: There are things that I want to do in email and things I do not want to do in email. The &quot;attachments reinvented&quot; (really?) is such an example: Sure, you could show all the attachments for one person in one place. But when would I use that? In most cases what I want to do is move data out of email and get them where they are useful. Gluing them closer to the emails solves no problem for me.<p>I get that this is all social and everything, so as somebody who mostly uses email for work, I&#x27;m not the target audience. But either you mostly work stuff with emails (then this fails on a number of fronts), or you do mostly social... no wait, you don&#x27;t do mostly social with emails. That&#x27;s the problem. And that&#x27;s why most email clients are not very satisfying for one particular use - because serving multiple uses at the same time simply is a dirty business.<p>Sorry to fall into the typical HN snark here, but that&#x27;s how I feel: It does look nice, but so could a thunderbird theme.<p>Footnotes:<p>- &quot;Sent with Unibox&quot;, really?<p>- No overview window (at least none shown - do I have to click through the people sidebar to find a recent email if I&#x27;m not sure what I&#x27;m searching for?)<p>- mentioning &quot;Exchange&quot; - be very careful here, saying that you support Exchange sets a very specific set of expectations that I&#x27;m pretty sure you cannot meet. In any case, you&#x27;re probably inviting in customers that you don&#x27;t want and it could cost you a lot of time and money to deal with them.
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Touche超过 11 年前
Nice to see email clients who are supporting IMAP again and not just Gmail.
kmfrk超过 11 年前
Love this concept of niche email clients:<p>1. Unibox based around contacts<p>2. Mail Pilot based around to-do lists
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songgao超过 11 年前
Nice job! Although a lot of my emails are not people-centric, but topic&#x2F;project&#x2F;event-centric. Unifying them into categories by people would make it harder for me to keep track of the content.<p>Would be nice if topic-centric could be added.
bhouston超过 11 年前
There sure are a lot of custom mail apps, is the paying market for mail apps really that large? I just use Gmail in the desktop browser and on android and it seems sufficient.
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pkrefta超过 11 年前
I wonder how multi-person conversations are handled - but I cannot try it. Mac App Store seriously needs demo versions support.
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jasiek超过 11 年前
Great, so what guarantee do I have that this app doesn&#x27;t end up like Sparrow?
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jagtesh超过 11 年前
I&#x27;ve been ripped off before with subpar HTML5 apps wrapped in a native app. If that&#x27;s not you, I&#x27;m willing to bite the bullet and pay $10 bucks.
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