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Full Screen Mario Takedown Notice

57 点作者 TheAuditor超过 11 年前

14 条评论

krakensden超过 11 年前
Of course they did. Everyone told you they would. Copyright is not just something that a bunch of greybeards imagined and have been lying to young programmers about.<p>Simple steps to protect yourself:<p>* Try not to clone commercial products to the pixel<p>* Pay attention to software licenses. Sometimes they matter<p>* If prominent news websites accuse you of doing something illegal, consider what they have to say
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fit2rule超过 11 年前
Its a real pity, but consider it to your advantage that this occurred, because it means that all your hard work can be pushed further into newer territory. While you would have been limited by how far you can promote a Super Mario clone, now the engine can be re-purposed to something else instead - something creative, perhaps? (It wasn&#x27;t something I would have considered to be terribly creative, btw: the correct word to use is derivative..)<p>So, if you take the perspective that Nintendo are doing you a favour by pushing your next phase of development away from derivation and instead into creation, and if you do indeed re-factor the codebase to do something else, then you will have experienced a positive effect from this experience. If all you do is take it down and not think about the next generation of product that you can base on your proven, demonstrated working technology, then I think you will have kind of missed an opportunity. Of course, easier for some random stranger on the internet to say this: but if you roll your own content on top of this layer, then you&#x27;ll have really made something ..
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IvanK_net超过 11 年前
So if I understand, they had a huge website traffic and made lots of money (donations) thanks to stealing the product (Mario character) from another company (Nintendo), who invested lots of money and hard work into it, and they are still complaining about it?
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basicallydan超过 11 年前
&gt; Full Screen Mario was enjoyed by nearly 2.7 million unique visitors during almost a month of popularity, across 6 continents and dozens of languages. I’m glad so many people got to enjoy the game, and look forward to working on new and exciting (and legal) projects.<p>Handled like a pro. Josh, I admire your dignity.
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K2h超过 11 年前
looks like the repo is still up <a href="https://github.com/DiogenesTheCynic/FullScreenMario" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;DiogenesTheCynic&#x2F;FullScreenMario</a>
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anonova超过 11 年前
A relevant issue from several weeks ago: <a href="https://github.com/Diogenesthecynic/FullScreenMario/issues/34" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Diogenesthecynic&#x2F;FullScreenMario&#x2F;issues&#x2F;3...</a>
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code_duck超过 11 年前
Nintendo is known to be protective of their largest franchises. If you look at your average ROM site, there are only a few games they try hard to prevent downloads of - Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong.<p>How about picking a less well known, but just as entertaining platform game? Many for the Sega Master System are either abandonware or close enough.
Silhouette超过 11 年前
Can those of you who just want to advocate or share techniques for knowingly breaking the law please do it somewhere else?<p>HN is one of the better forums on-line, and it would be a shame if it started getting associated with illegal activities, however much you personally might feel that law is wrong.
deckar01超过 11 年前
The internet archive still has it.
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hnrandom超过 11 年前
This took longer than I expected.
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yeukhon超过 11 年前
But you can make this an extension and people can just play off their browser. They can&#x27;t go after everyone downloading the source code and they are not in a position to stop people from playing off their browser.
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danso超过 11 年前
I&#x27;m going to go out on a limb here: nearly everyone on HN respects and admires Bill Watterson, the creator of &quot;Calvin and Hobbes.&quot; And yet Watterson has been quite protective of his cartoon creations, basically not allowing anyone to re-use them to make merchandise or new content, even though Watterson would become filthy rich off of it, and the world would likely be a better place with more Hobbes window-suction dolls than Garfields.<p>But isn&#x27;t it Watterson&#x27;s right to do this? He&#x27;s an artist, and he wisely saw that the crass commercialization of his beloved creations would, in the long run, reduce their nostalgic value. Hell, maybe he isn&#x27;t even thinking in that way. In any case, I think it&#x27;s possible that C&amp;H holds such a special place in our consciousness because of Watterson&#x27;s reluctance to license his characters, and <i>good for him</i>.<p>Now imagine a situation in which a hard-working t-shirt maker puts the images of C&amp;H on shirts -- shirts for which he risks a tremendous amount of capital to produce -- and makes a boatload of money selling $8 t-shirts? Is Watterson harmed financially? For some people, the answer is &quot;No&quot;, because Watterson was not making money off of C&amp;H t-shirts in the first place. And copying static images certainly doesn&#x27;t remove them from Watterson&#x27;s possession.<p>Yet I would argue again that Watterson&#x27;s artistic intent has been damaged...and that even though he hasn&#x27;t been <i>physically</i> robbed, a well-intentioned t-shirt maker has watered down the value of Watterson&#x27;s creation.<p>Is this not the same situation as the OP here? Is it different because Nintendo is a big corporation that should be doing better things with its time? Perhaps...size does matter. But the principle is arguably the same, and for anyone to say that Nintendo is going overboard and doesn&#x27;t need to protect its intellectual property, that requires making a huge assumption about Nintendo&#x27;s strategy on how it wishes Mario Bros. to be experienced, same as it&#x27;s a huge assumption to say that Bill Watterson doesn&#x27;t know what he&#x27;s doing when he refuses to license the use of C&amp;H.<p>More context. This is Watterson&#x27;s opinion on turning C&amp;H into a film:<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/2013/10/17/calvin_and_hobbes_creator_bill_watterson_gives_rare_interview/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.salon.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;10&#x2F;17&#x2F;calvin_and_hobbes_creator_bi...</a><p>&gt; <i>Watterson also confirmed that an animated “Calvin and Hobbes” movie won’t happen:</i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <i>The visual sophistication of Pixar blows me away, but I have zero interest in animating Calvin and Hobbes. If you’ve ever compared a film to a novel it’s based on, you know the novel gets bludgeoned. It’s inevitable, because different media have different strengths and needs, and when you make a movie, the movie’s needs get served. As a comic strip, Calvin and Hobbes works exactly the way I intended it to. There’s no upside for me in adapting it.</i><p>Watterson is incredibly protective of his own creation, so far as to not even give Pixar -- legendary artists in their own right -- a chance to entertain millions of people with the goodness of C&amp;H. Yet I don&#x27;t think that makes him a copyright-villain.
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TheAuditor超过 11 年前
If they wanted to Nintento could have actually made use of the programmer to create a new empire in HTML gaming in partnership. But they choose to go for the same old &#x27;its my stuff&#x27;.
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Frozenlock超过 11 年前
Oh Nintendo. You used to be so fun and innovative.<p>But now, it seems you can&#x27;t make anything newsworthy anymore. (Or when you end up in the news, it&#x27;s because of some silly takedown like this one.)
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