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Why China is leading the global rise of Bitcoin

84 点作者 tjaerv超过 11 年前

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dualogy超过 11 年前
What everyone needs to understand is that Bitcoin is a gift from heaven for every &quot;productive&quot; country&#x27;s central bank.<p>Much of the world is trying to get away from the USD as a global &quot;reserve&quot; and trade-settlement currency, without the masses jumping into gold and without pissing of the US (govt, economy, Wall St).<p>Bitcoin is so much more &quot;tolerated&quot; by Germany and China than it is by the UK and the US, it&#x27;s pretty obvious.<p>You don&#x27;t really want the masses to rush into gold -- it needs to stay cheap so oil can stay cheap for whole economies, and central banks can acquire more of it for a future when intra-national trade imbalances may be settled in a proven, timeless, globally-accepted (at the central bank level) reserve asset that&#x27;s not subjected to any one nation-state&#x27;s (or state union&#x27;s) wims or woes. You also don&#x27;t want the savers to store their excess savings or retirement funds in USD or even your own currencies, because they&#x27;ll be screwed over. You also don&#x27;t want all the excess liquidity printed over the last 5ish years to end up as real-world price inflation on store shelves. Something like Bitcoin solves all these beautifully, and carries no diplomatic concerns because it&#x27;s something that citizens are now just free to adopt as they see fit.<p>You think the Chinese want USD long-term? Why on earth would they? They wanna convert them into other wealth assets, even BTC if they like, asap. Think about the situation today or more so the last decade or three: they export something, take in USD. The producer takes those to their bank to convert into spendable yuan. Their bank takes those to the central bank for yuan. Their central bank doesn&#x27;t wanna sit on them either so (traditionally) they buy treasuries for those USD, which sends the USD back home to the US where Americans go on the next shopping spree of buying Chinese (in our example) goods (circle repeats), and when the treasury is due, freshly printed USD plus a small interest &quot;gain&quot; go to China central bank and they&#x27;re left holding the bag once again. What to do with those homeless USD? It&#x27;s called reserve-currency privilegue and really the world would be happy to abandon it, but you can&#x27;t just flip the switch or madness would ensue. Similar situation for the majority of producing-and-exporting countries.<p>Food for thought!
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gmays超过 11 年前
If you look into China&#x27;s real estate market they&#x27;ve invested billions to build cities...empty cities. They continue to build because citizens&#x27; investment options are limited, so real estate is one of the few &quot;attractive&quot; options. So they end up with ghost cities full of unoccupied office buildings, condos, malls, etc. Crazy, right?<p>And now they have bitcoin to put their money into. That&#x27;s a large part of what&#x27;s driving the boom. And you know what? It&#x27;ll keep going. If they&#x27;re willing to invest billions in ghost cities they&#x27;re willing to drive bitcoin above $10,000.<p>I&#x27;m not bold enough to claim that bitcoin is a bad investment, but to me it seems closer to gambling than investment. As long as it&#x27;s money you&#x27;re not afraid to lose, go for it. But for me there are too many uncertainties and I&#x27;m not willing to invest the time. There are so many other opportunities.<p>Edit: Here&#x27;s some info on the ghost cities <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2013/09/24/what-investors-really-think-about-chinas-ghost-cities/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;kenrapoza&#x2F;2013&#x2F;09&#x2F;24&#x2F;what-invest...</a>
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AJ007超过 11 年前
Speculation excluded, currency controls would be a good reason for a Chinese citizen to &quot;invest&quot; in bitcoin (and cash it out on USD at the other side.)
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hkmurakami超过 11 年前
We&#x27;ll looks like the Chinese govt will now have a huge motivation to thwart bitcoin&#x27;s rise within its borders.
VMG超过 11 年前
Fun fact: btcchina is trading at ~5400CNY&#x2F;BTC right now, which is approximately $880 while the average on other exchanges is $700. Good day for arbitrage.<p>btcchina: <a href="http://bitcoinity.org/markets/btcchina/CNY" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bitcoinity.org&#x2F;markets&#x2F;btcchina&#x2F;CNY</a><p>bitstamp: <a href="http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bitcoinity.org&#x2F;markets&#x2F;bitstamp&#x2F;USD</a>
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known超过 11 年前
American economy will continue to slide till <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triffin_dilemma" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Triffin_dilemma</a> is resolved.<p><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/13/bill-would-outlaw-us-dollar-russia/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtontimes.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2013&#x2F;nov&#x2F;13&#x2F;bill-would-o...</a>
VaucGiaps超过 11 年前
I am just getting a gray page here @ opera.
zhaodaxiong超过 11 年前
This is the exact reason that people should avoid bit coin... I am serious...
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