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Launch a Water-Propelled Satellite into Deep Space

145 点作者 mrchucklepants超过 11 年前

18 条评论

Gravityloss超过 11 年前
They sure write a lot but for someone more technologically oriented, the water plasma engine or CAT is most interesting.<p><a href="http://pepl.engin.umich.edu/thrusters/CAT.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;pepl.engin.umich.edu&#x2F;thrusters&#x2F;CAT.html</a><p>&quot;First, from a propellant tank, our fuel propellant will be injected from its storage tank into the plasma liner, a quartz chamber that distributes the gas and contains the plasma. The gas is turned into a plasma by a radio frequency antenna that surrounds the liner and launches a plasma wave known as a &quot;helicon.&quot; Then the plasma is launched out of the liner with magnetic fields from extremely powerful permanent magnets, pushing the satellite in the opposite direction. Unlike conventional rockets, almost any gas can be used as propellant for the CAT - even water vapor! &quot;<p>Some ion engines use electrostatics (charged grids) for accelerating the ions. Maybe here it&#x27;s just their random movement?<p>Here&#x27;s the noble gas helicon double layer thruster, I don&#x27;t know how related the CAT is related to this: <a href="http://physics.anu.edu.au/prl/sp3/hdlt/how_does_it_work.php" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;physics.anu.edu.au&#x2F;prl&#x2F;sp3&#x2F;hdlt&#x2F;how_does_it_work.php</a>
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noonespecial超过 11 年前
I&#x27;d just like to point out that their first kickstarter didn&#x27;t make even half its goal. We all talk about how we wish more money was devoted to research like this. Skip your latte today and toss them a fiver.
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alanctgardner2超过 11 年前
&gt; CAT is currently at NASA Technology Readiness Level (TRL) 3, meaning we are in the midst of performing experiments to probe its feasibility, thanks to private sponsorship<p>Clicking on the link, 3 is a really far way from actually flying. Like, they haven&#x27;t successfully demonstrated this in a lab yet. For reference, there are 9 stages, the final one being &quot;it&#x27;s in space&quot;.<p>It seems like an interesting idea, but I&#x27;m with the other commenters in asking why this needs money from outside the traditional channels. It&#x27;s the kind of long-winded and technical writeup I would expect from a grant proposal, not a Kickstarter.
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sherjilozair超过 11 年前
I don&#x27;t understand. $50K being asked by professors and PhD students? They certainly enjoy funds orders of magnitude more. $50K is like two YC startups&#x27; seed money.<p>Why do they want it? Can&#x27;t they self-fund it? Or do they just want other people to share the glory? Isn&#x27;t the equipment shown in the video worth as much, or probably more?
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ThomPete超过 11 年前
Off-topic<p>I have seen even Nasa uses Spaaaaaace as a word.<p>Anyone have an explanation?
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zellyn超过 11 年前
I&#x27;m interested in this as a cheap way of providing time-limited encryption: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6511690" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=6511690</a>
outworlder超过 11 年前
I am unsure what is the relevance of water in this project. It is not like the noble gases used in other engines (including ion) are difficult to find or too expensive.<p>Unless there&#x27;s the long-term goal of collecting water in order to &#x27;refuel&#x27; the craft. Which is unlikely, as they are too tiny to afford thee extra machinery.<p>I&#x27;m thinking it&#x27;s just a matter of reducing for the &#x27;fuel tanks&#x27;.
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embro超过 11 年前
Just gave what I could! Hope this help!<p>SCIENCE!!!!!
vastinfest超过 11 年前
This is a very cool idea indeed.<p>I looked over their Kickstarter and link to CAT engine itself, but only got confused. How are they going to change direction of the craft itself (I&#x27;m not sure what&#x27;s the proper &quot;space&quot; terminilogy for &quot;turning left or right is&quot;)? Or that is not needed?
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Wingman4l7超过 11 年前
It&#x27;s worth noting that they tried raising $200,000 back in July and only got to the ~$68,000 mark: <a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/longmier/cat-a-thruster-for-interplanetary-cubesats" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kickstarter.com&#x2F;projects&#x2F;longmier&#x2F;cat-a-thruster-...</a>
Taylorious超过 11 年前
Why only 50k? That&#x27;s peanuts for researchers. U of M is one of the top universities in the US, they couldn&#x27;t get a major grant for this? Could it be that the technology is not as promising&#x2F;proven as they would like it to appear?
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mcross超过 11 年前
Perhaps this is a dumb question, but wouldn&#x27;t the water freeze?
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tocomment超过 11 年前
Would something like this be able to work within the atmosphere?
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nayshins超过 11 年前
Sending my name to deep space... FOR SCIENCE!
nullcode000超过 11 年前
Backed. Thanks for sharing the project.
tocomment超过 11 年前
So wouldn&#x27;t this build up a charge over time if its giving off electrons or am I misunderstanding?
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el_shayan超过 11 年前
Why does it feel so much like a scam?
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ape4超过 11 年前
Only $50K ?