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What Democracy?: The case for abolishing the United States Senate

14 点作者 kudu超过 11 年前

6 条评论

AndrewKemendo超过 11 年前
<i>The answer is that democracy is itself a protection against tyranny, whether by the one (autocracy) or by the few (oligarchy).</i><p>Except it&#x27;s not, which is explicitly the reason for the Senate. It is there to slow things down - by design. Democracies have a pretty bad track record for turning into oligarchies.<p>Of late there has been much discussion about the reforming of the American governmental system because of it&#x27;s &quot;dysfunction.&quot; As a result there are a whole lot of Baby out with the bathwater approaches which are offered up as solutions. This article does the same and wishes away most of the problems that the idealization of the Senate is there to solve.<p>The article&#x27;s main complaint seems to be that the &quot;aristocracy&quot; of the Senate maintains the power imbalance of the United States, which absolves the electorate of any responsibility. In fact the article never discusses anything beyond <i>the fact that</i> the system is corrupted and that it is racially skewed. Never as to why, or describing some underlying mechanism that is keeping it there.<p>In the end, unless you think voting is &quot;rigged&quot; or somehow a sham, the responsibility falls on the electorate to manage who sits in the seats of power. Widespread apathy and disengagement (for often practical and legitimate reasons) keeps the same people in power and ensures that the wrong decisions and power will continue to be consolidated into too few hands.<p>Good example here: <a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-november-11-2013/not-so-angry-voters" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thedailyshow.com&#x2F;watch&#x2F;mon-november-11-2013&#x2F;not-s...</a>
ctdonath超过 11 年前
Originally the Senate was not elected by the people directly as democracy, but selected by their states as a republic. Direct election of Senators required a Constitutional a amendment.<p>Don&#x27;t abolish the Senate, abolish the amendment that screwed it up.
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shittyanalogy超过 11 年前
Ok, can we at least acknowledge that <i>this</i> article is completely off topic and has no business being discussed on a news site for computer programmers.<p>specifically: <i>Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they&#x27;re evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.</i><p>This is:<p><pre><code> A) About politics and politics alone. B) Not in any way a new phenomenon.</code></pre>
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protomyth超过 11 年前
Given the Speaker of the Houses we have had over the years, I shudder to think what would have happened without the states interests being protected by the Senate. In fact, making Senators directly elected has been problematic for state budgets and allowed an overreach in DC that is not proper.
tbrownaw超过 11 年前
If we&#x27;re trying to find a better government, wouldn&#x27;t it be better to decouple things? Break down the responisbilities of government into a few major areas that probably align fairly well to the existing structure (DoD, NIST, IRS &amp; the social safety net programs, etc), and then instead of electing representatives and senators who get put on committees by seniority, elect people specifically to small-ish committees responsible for policy in one specific area.
Retric超过 11 年前
IMO, DC not having a vote is a far larger issue. The senate may not be 1 man 1 vote but DC has hundreds of thousands of people with no say in federal laws &#x2F; taxes and rather limited self rule.
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