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CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

370 点作者 socialized超过 11 年前

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redhatstory超过 11 年前
In the beginning, there was Red Hat Linux[1]. It was sold in boxes at stores such as CompUSA (remember?) but was also available for free download from Red Hat.<p>Then, Red Hat decided they could make more money by spinning off Red Hat Linux into a separate enterprise-only product called Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), which they declined to make available for free in a ready-to-install binary form. Fedora[2] was also spun off at this time, as the free successor to Red Hat Linux that was supposed to be only suitable for home users. Fedora development was&#x2F;is sponsored by Red Hat but they did not offer end-user support, in contrast to RHEL.<p>Meanwhile, there was demand for a free version of RHEL. Since it was built with GPL software, Red Hat was obligated to make it available in source form, but their trademark policy prohibited anyone else from using the Red Hat name. Therefore, a group of volunteers took RHEL, removed Red Hat trademarks, and called it CentOS. To avoid confusion, CentOS explained the origins of the distribution on their web site. For their efforts, they were threatened by Red Hat&#x27;s legal department and forced to remove all mentions of Red Hat and even links to Red Hat&#x27;s web site from the CentOS web site. CentOS complied and began referring to its Red Hat derivations using the euphemism PNAELV[3].<p>Now, Red Hat has again decided they would benefit from being more directly involved in providing an open-source, freely-available enterprise Linux distribution. We&#x27;ve come full circle.<p>(Flippant depiction aside, I intend no antagonism, but merely find the history of these projects interesting.)<p>[1]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Linux" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Red_Hat_Linux</a> [2]: <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/en/about-fedora" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fedoraproject.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;about-fedora</a> [3]: <a href="http://www.pnaelv.net" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pnaelv.net</a>
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akbar501超过 11 年前
Congrats to the CentOS team. You filled a much needed gap when the Fedora &#x2F; RHEL split happened.<p>As someone who used Red Hat Linux in the 90&#x27;s &#x2F; early 2000&#x27;s, you had to be there to know how large of a gap the CentOS team filled.<p>Historical background:<p>Red Hat Linux (RHL) was the most widely used Linux distro in the late 90&#x27;s &#x2F; early 2000&#x27;s. Overnight, RedHat destabilized RHL by turning it into Fedora with it&#x27;s rapid release cycles, lack of back ports, bleeding edge packages etc. RHEL became a closed distro with only source distributed, but none of the tools to easily replicate the build.<p>RHL users (who were the majority of Linux users) were faced with a choice. Pay for RHEL or switch distros. This really sucked b&#x2F;c RHL deployments were largely servers that were designed for long term deployments. The community was faced with a large scale migration of servers which involved a large population of web and edge of network deployments.<p>This is when CentOS stepped in, created a binary compatible build of RHEL, and allowed long time RHL users to continue with a RedHat-like distro.<p>RedHat has been a major contributor to OSS. However, projects like CentOS have filled very important roles in the Linux and OSS communities. Again, congrats to the team.
lvillani超过 11 年前
I really wish that, when RHEL&#x2F;CentOS branches from Fedora to make a new release, they would also keep and provide a snapshot of Fedora&#x27;s repository at that time, just like what Ubuntu does when they sync with Debian Sid (i.e.: packages in &#x27;main&#x27; and &#x27;restricted&#x27; repos are supported, all other packages in the Debian archive are imported and made available in &#x27;universe&#x27; and &#x27;multiverse&#x27; repository for your convenience).<p>That would work a long way to make CentOS a viable Linux distribution for everyday use. In my experience, EPEL isn&#x27;t enough and rebuilding packages seems like a wasted effort since they were <i>there</i> when they branched off to prep a new release.<p>Add a somewhat predictable release schedule on top of that (again, in my opinion Ubuntu hit the sweet spot with 24 months here) and that would be the icing on the cake. Heck, RHEL 6 was first released in 2010 and there&#x27;s still Python 2.6 on that!<p>I know that I could shut up and use Ubuntu (I do), it&#x27;s just that I like RedHat way more than Canonical but they don&#x27;t make it easy for me to use and love their products (speaking as a former Fedora user and contributor).
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jonathonf超过 11 年前
A bit more information in the official announcement: <a href="http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2014-January/020100.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lists.centos.org&#x2F;pipermail&#x2F;centos-announce&#x2F;2014-Janua...</a><p>&quot;With great excitement I&#x27;d like to announce that we are joining the Red Hat family. The CentOS Project ( <a href="http://www.centos.org" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.centos.org</a> ) is joining forces with Red Hat. Working as part of the Open Source and Standards team ( <a href="http://community.redhat.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;community.redhat.com&#x2F;</a> ) to foster rapid innovation beyond the platform into the next generation of emerging technologies. Working alongside the Fedora and RHEL ecosystems, we hope to further expand on the community offerings by providing a platform that is easily consumed, by other projects to promote their code while we maintain the established base.&quot;<p>(continues)
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colinbartlett超过 11 年前
Does this mean we can finally stop referring to RedHat as an unnamed &quot;Prominent North American Enterprise Linux Vendor&quot;?
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rootbear超过 11 年前
I hope this will make it easier for me to use CentOS at NASA. They only want us to use Linux distributions that are actively supported with security fixes and for some reason they don&#x27;t think CentOS qualifies, since it&#x27;s not a &quot;real&quot; company. They prefer us to use RHEL, Ubuntu, or Suse. But if this new arrangement increases the perception of timeliness for updates, then maybe we can start using it and save some money.<p>Edited for clarity.
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k3oni超过 11 年前
I am not sure if i feel happy or not about this. I just hope they don&#x27;t go the Fedora way on mangling, moving and changing everything around with every iteration.<p>I don&#x27;t see what interest has RH into Centos except for trying to disrupt the base and push that way more businesses and customers to RH.<p>Maybe i&#x27;m just biased but Centos is doing pretty good in my opinion except maybe the late code changes and updates.
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Keyframe超过 11 年前
So, in general nothing much will change for users? Red Hat is introducing stability by employing core developers to work solely on CentOS and possibly streamlining changes between RHEL &lt;-&gt; CentOS. Or, if you prefer to view it like that, Red Hat is exercising more direct control over CentOS.
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dmourati超过 11 年前
I&#x27;ve largely made my living off CentOS software. I hope this new friendship doesn&#x27;t cause CentOS to become diluted or eventually shuttered. Great project run by a very small number of very dedicated supporters. Best of luck to them.
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emmelaich超过 11 年前
I think Red Hat had to do this, otherwise CentOS would be drawn closer and closer to Oracle.
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jlgaddis超过 11 年前
I wonder if this will lead to CentOS getting security updates at the same time as RHEL (or very shortly thereafter) or if CentOS will continue to have to &quot;play catch-up&quot;.<p>It is for this reason that I moved to Oracle Linux about a year ago when deploying a bunch of new machines. I am certainly no fan of Oracle the company but they were getting security updates out much quicker than CentOS.
geekowl超过 11 年前
I see this as RH not wanting competition and&#x2F;or wanting to somehow control CentOS. It&#x27;s no wonder, honestly, that Debian is gaining in popularity as they are the last of the main Linux distros who control their own destiny. I feel very awkward about this news.
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johnchristopher超过 11 年前
What would the consequences&#x2F;benefits be for the Fedora project ?
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mergy超过 11 年前
Now if they can just get rid of RPM I might come back!
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