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Nest, Google and you

79 点作者 justhw超过 11 年前

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nakedrobot2超过 11 年前
I&#x27;m sorry but I am imagining the whole article without reading it, and thinking of all the platitudes and assurances about things that they really have no control over... How about an honest acquisition blog post? &quot;We are cashing out. We hope that they won&#x27;t flush us down the drain. We are part of Google&#x27;s unstoppable march towards tracking and logging all human activity as we approach the technological singularity, which Google is quickly approaching, if the NSA do not beat them to it.&quot; How about something like that for a change?<p>Edit: Ok, I read it. Yes, it was the blog post I was imagining.
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mlyang超过 11 年前
Will Nest customer data be shared with Google? Our privacy policy clearly limits the use of customer information to providing and improving Nest’s products and services. We’ve always taken privacy seriously and this will not change.<p>This phrasing is pretty ambiguous&#x2F;vague if you ask me. &quot;Taking privacy seriously&quot; will not change-- though I&#x27;m sure few behemoth Internet companies, including Google, would say that they don&#x27;t take privacy seriously.<p>I think the best summary of Nest&#x27;s answer is: Yes, we will share customer data with Google. But we&#x27;ll take it seriously.
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wonderyak超过 11 年前
Its amazing to me that the second announcement after the acquision is all about how Google won&#x27;t be privvy to your data.<p>Seems to me that Google has completely lost control of the narrative.<p>A few years ago people would be talking about how great this kind of integration would be in their lives, now its just Google+ jokes.
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michalu超过 11 年前
Google+ accounts for all Nest owners. On a serious note I wonder what will founders do next. I thought they had a great chance to build next great company, like Apple. This is strange situation, Google and other big players have so much money they seem to be able to convince anyone.
coldcode超过 11 年前
Well I was going to buy one ... forget it. In fact if I had access to VC I&#x27;d want to build a competitor. Sure you&#x27;re competing with Google. But being the second acquisition by someone else is still not a bad bet.
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encoderer超过 11 年前
Am I the only person on Hacker News who doesn&#x27;t care that Google collects data and uses it to build targeting models?<p>Because I really could not care less.<p>Suppose there was a coffee shop where, after you leave, they dust your mug for fingerprints and record what they know of your visit. And suppose they aggregate this data day after day.<p>Is that creepy? Yes. If I looked over my shoulder and saw the guy carefully dusting my left dishes, it would be creepy. And I&#x27;d have some choices to make. Do I boycott? Do I wear gloves for added privacy? Do I freak out about my &quot;privacy&quot; every time somebody mentions the coffee shop?<p>Or do I keep coming back, because they have products that nobody else does, and they give me a great service at no fee.<p>I care about my privacy. I care how it affects my life. And these things just don&#x27;t. They don&#x27;t. I couldn&#x27;t care less about them.
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k-mcgrady超过 11 年前
OT, slightly related.<p>In the threads I&#x27;ve read about this acquisition most of the &#x27;anger&#x27; has centered on Google+. It&#x27;s clearly not going anywhere - so what could Google do to fix it for those who despise it?<p>Personally I would like to see better integration for people with multiple Google accounts. I have 5 Google accounts. I don&#x27;t need 5 G+ profiles. The other accounts I use only for email, a YouTube channel, and drive for business docs&#x2F;spreadsheets. I should be able to tell Google I have a G+ account associated with this email address please don&#x27;t force it on me on these other accounts. If Google really wants G+ to be accurate this benefits them too - 1 fully filled out profile instead of several being used for different reasons with different and inaccurate info in them.
cromwellian超过 11 年前
It&#x27;s amazingly sad, predictable and vapid the commentary has become.
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Steko超过 11 年前
From Nilay Patel&#x27;s interview with Tony Fadell:<p><i>NP: Two years ago, I actually remember this really distinctly — it was a very motivating Tony quote — you told me that the whole point was to not build products, because products and services will fade away. The point was to build a really great business. That to me was Tony, that was what you guys were doing. But now you sold the business. Why?<p>TF: Well, we’re about creating the business. We still have a long way to go to create this business, and I‘m also not naïve to the fact that we’re going to need substantial resources to fulfill what we set out to do. This is not just spinning up a server and all of a sudden you have scale, and using other people’s infrastructure for software distribution and all this other stuff.<p>TF: We’ve got to fight hand-to-hand combat in retail spaces. We have to go in and literally build tons of infrastructure for customer support and servers and all those things. I want to focus on building the differentiation for our customers, not take a sideline to building infrastructure that’s not customer differentiating. When I’m busy focused on those things, the competition is starting to nip at our heels.<p>TF: I really want to build a great business, and I think this is the best way to build that business. If we would have kept going alone — you see every company wants to be the Nest of something, some unloved category in the home. I wanted to double down, and this is the best way to double down.<p>NP: Don’t say double down. It’s the kiss of death.<p>TF: Okay I won’t say it. I appreciate the advice.</i><p><a href="http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/13/5305430/interview-tony-fadell-nest-google-acquisition" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;1&#x2F;13&#x2F;5305430&#x2F;interview-tony-fad...</a>
dude_abides超过 11 年前
From the Q&amp;A:<p><i>Q: Will Nest customer data be shared with Google?</i><p><i>A: We’ve always taken privacy seriously and this will not change.</i><p>Clever play on words. &quot;Taking privacy seriously&quot; will not change, but &quot;policy on customer data being shared with Google&quot; can obviously change :)
wil421超过 11 年前
So how long till a nest starts collecting my neighbors ssid&#x27;s or location info and phoning Home?
anqo超过 11 年前
I fear Google+ integration coming soon.
alberth超过 11 年前
What I still don&#x27;t understand is why Google Ventures would lead a Series C round just last week and then this week Google Inc acquires them.<p>Why even have the Series C round at all then?
vonskippy超过 11 年前
How long until Ads start showing up on your thermostat? Or on your smartphone controller app - want to change the temperature, please watch these short commercials and then we&#x27;ll allow you to change your temperature settings.<p>&quot;Feeling a bit warm, Sally&#x27;s Soda is just three blocks away&quot;.<p>&quot;Target is having a 15% off on all winter coats and jackets&quot;.<p>This will NOT end well.
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suprgeek超过 11 年前
&lt;Quote&gt;<p>Will Nest customer data be shared with Google?<p>Our privacy policy clearly limits the use of customer information to providing and improving Nest’s products and services. We’ve always taken privacy seriously and this will not change.<p>&lt;&#x2F;Quote&gt;<p>This was the $3.2 billion Question.....<p>The answer should be more than enough to assure you that yes Google will own all data that Nest now has (or will have).
gesman超过 11 年前
Google knows everything about you and the only difference between Google and NSA is that Google does not try to hide this fact.
jblow超过 11 年前
Start the Nest shutdown clock ... 18 months?