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Show HN: Free, open-source site for finding beautiful hikes

145 点作者 zakn超过 11 年前

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alan_cx超过 11 年前
Just my personal thoughts as a hiker; not a hacker, HNer or what ever.<p>Firstly: Dont be disheartened by my criticism which will follow. Its a decent first attempt, the idea is absolutely worth working on, and could become a valuable resource for a lot of people. On to the criticism....<p>What goes in the search? Are hikes named? Do I need to know the name to search for? Search for a location? From the first page, what do I expect from the site?<p>I click discover. Nice pictures. Click one. A description. I expected a map and what not. Not a big blob of text. Why not trail mini map?<p>As after a few click I didn&#x27;t see anything useful, I gave up.<p>I don&#x27;t initially see what the site is doing or offering. First think I think of looking for hikes is a map of the hike, where it is and the route itself. That tells me a hell of a lot in one go. Where it is, the terrain, length, and so on. Having seen that, then I want information.<p>I would add a defined difficulty level. Family hike? Casual hike? Hike for the experienced? What kit level? Do I need more than boots? And so on.<p>UI. Now, I don&#x27;t like the flat design thing. Thats me. But, I was relieved to see you didn&#x27;t got the the awful for ever scrolling down thing. So, this &quot;asshole&quot; (I was called that here for not liking those sites) is happy about that!!! But, on a serious note, in my experience, hikers tend to be older, and it <i>might</i> be that a more traditional site would be better suited. I dont know, but it might be worth trying to understand who is likely to use your site and find out what sort of UI they like to use. Or maybe offer a couple of skins ot layouts, one for trendy people and one for us old crusties.<p>Personally, I think the whole thing need a fundamental re-think, from landing page onwards. It is great idea. Hiking is an area which could do with a damn good info source. IMHO, there are a lot of problems. But, like I said, keep working on it. Its worth it, and I can see you do seem to have the skills to make it work.<p>Personally, I look forward to V2. Best of luck. It is a good idea, had huge potential, and I&#x27;d like to see it progress.
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zakn超过 11 年前
There are already tons of sites devoted to hikes. Here&#x27;s why I made hike.io:<p>- It&#x27;s all about hikes. Detailed trail information, beautiful photos, full screen maps, and not much else.<p>- It&#x27;s editable. Anyone can add new hikes or modify existing ones, without having to sign in. (It&#x27;s contenteditable and goes through a review process, try it out!)<p>- It&#x27;s free. No paywalls or ads. Ever.<p>- It&#x27;s open. The site&#x27;s data is available under Creative Commons. The code is open source (I used AngularJS and Sinatra: <a href="http://git.io/hike.io" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;git.io&#x2F;hike.io</a>)<p>There are still things I want to do. For example, GPX support, trip reports, and obviously I need more hikes on the site, but I thought I&#x27;d get it out there anyway in order to get some feedback. Any thoughts?
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potash超过 11 年前
Great site design. A couple ideas off the top of my head:<p>- Let hikes to include GPS route(s) to display on the map.<p>- Link to the USGS topo map that covers a given hike: <a href="http://store.usgs.gov/b2c_usgs/usgs/maplocator/(xcm=r3standardpitrex_prd&amp;layout=6_1_61_48&amp;uiarea=2&amp;ctype=areaDetails&amp;carea=%24ROOT)/.do" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.usgs.gov&#x2F;b2c_usgs&#x2F;usgs&#x2F;maplocator&#x2F;(xcm=r3standa...</a><p>- Add a bibliography to each hike.<p>- Scrape some websites to create &quot;stubs&quot; for new hikes and encourage users to develop these.<p>- Speaking of stubs, if you are going to have collaboratively edited content why not just build on MediaWiki or similar?<p>- Use OpenStreetMaps instead of GMaps and encourage users to add trails to OSM.
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prawn超过 11 年前
Put some info on that front page photo so people know what it is. If there&#x27;s info there, it didn&#x27;t show in my browser. (The hike for anyone unfamiliar is The Narrows in Zion National Park, Utah.)<p>Maybe also suggestions or random features on the front page? That could lead in to the discover page.<p>Run through &quot;top hikes&quot; sites for ideas on what to add yourself and build up your content. I was a bit surprised not to find more; you could build a starting list and then knock off adding 10-20 each night for a week and get your numbers up.<p>I&#x27;ve also found some arbitrary rankings or suggestions can be a good way to find the most special experiences. If photos are the only method of discovery, everyone ends up in Monument Valley and miss Arches when it should be the other way around.<p>This site (<a href="http://besthike.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;besthike.com&#x2F;</a>) is ugly but isn&#x27;t a terrible way to get ideas of new hikes to research. I&#x27;ve found a few through that site which I&#x27;ve really enjoyed (TMB, Huashan, TLG, etc).
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bpowah超过 11 年前
I&#x27;m excited to see where this goes. You are right about the competition. There is tons of information out there, but not many are wiki and none have the responsiveness or a clean modern design yours does.<p>Kudos on the &quot;free and open&quot; promise! I hate logins.<p>Critique: - I second the suggestion to encourage contributing to OSM. Most popular hikes will be in OSM already and adding them to hike.io could be as easy as selecting the route on the OSM layer. - can you use a USGS layer for US locations? see mapper.acme.com - Adding an entry should be easier. I selected the coords, but was still required to enter the state, country. I would like to simply add a few points on a map and have the elevation&#x2F;gain calculated for me - driving directions? why a block of text? why not a link to google driving directions?
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ejain超过 11 年前
This site looks great for inspiration, but for me the most important thing when planning a hike is being able to see updates on current conditions (e.g. is the trailhead accessible? Is there snow on the trail?).<p>One of the best-implemented hiking sites in my opinion is hikr.org, though the information I need tends to be on local sites like wta.org or nwhikers.net.<p>In addition to submitting trip reports to wta.org, I keep a record of my hikes at <a href="https://zenobase.com/#/buckets/u07qih0a27/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zenobase.com&#x2F;#&#x2F;buckets&#x2F;u07qih0a27&#x2F;</a>. It&#x27;s a more general-purpose service, but I can filter by any combination of region, hiking distance, duration, season etc.
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caio1982超过 11 年前
Besides the points already mentioned by other commenters I&#x27;d say imperial units all over instead of metrical system being used was a big let down to me for using the site. Given only the US uses imperial stuff it would be reasonable to assume metrical units for any IP not located in the US, unless the site is targeted for american audience.<p>Also, I&#x27;m not sure how multi-trails hikes should be organized. I tried to add the Annapurna Circuit in Nepal which I did a few months ago (and is actually a series of hikes between villages) but I could not figure it out and gave up.<p>Good work though, don&#x27;t give up now! I know a lot of people who have been looking for a site like that :-)
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kfk超过 11 年前
I think you need some kind of reputation&#x2F;review system in place. I used to do 8-9 hrs hikes and in that case you need to know the new guy won&#x27;t start screaming in pain after 4 hrs.<p>Also, most of the hikers are in a group, there should be a way to create a group tied to a specific area.<p>Finally, you should think of something better than donations to keep this going, because potentially it can go very far. The thing is you are hosting pictures, can&#x27;t you use an external provider (flikr, picasa)? Otherwise, if you reach an important size (and for this site, you have to), even a supporter budge (a la couchsurfing) for $5 a year could bring you nice revenues.
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VLM超过 11 年前
Looks nice, works fast.<p>I&#x27;m going to be biased because I like hiking, so what a surprise I like a hiking site.<p>I already upload pix of hikes to panoramio, perhaps you could share those pix. Panoramio&#x27;s licensing system is totally bizarre, I think they&#x27;re trying to get permission for simple CC:SA from uploaders but they dumb it down into prose so I&#x27;m not entirely sure what they&#x27;re asking. Licensing equivalent of security thru obscurity. If you&#x27;re trying to CC:SA or CC:NC then just call it CC:SA or CC:NC instead of making the verbal equivalent of an interpretive dance.<p>Aside from pure and simple CRUD it would be interesting to see more complicated stuff. Find me the hikes within 10 miles of my sister&#x27;s house and shorter than 3 miles and a low vertical component so when we visit in the summer we can take a short hike with the little kids. Or some kind of popularity stats or voting for most beautiful scenery, or least mosquitoes. Given a pile of data there should be more to do with it than &quot;find me a name&quot; and &quot;its nearby&quot;. A query that sounds like &quot;Find me the hike within 50 miles of my house with the fewest pix and&#x2F;or shortest writeup&quot;<p>(edited to add, something I&#x27;ve never seen before, but would be hilarious, would be rating hikes not by the usual stars or distance but little icons of mosquitoes, or bug spray icons or something, wetlands (swamps) are beautiful in the winter or around a hard freeze, but in the summer, ugh)<p>Something I&#x27;ve never seen before that just jumped into my head is integration of weather.gov weather reports &#x2F; forecasts with hike data. Am I wise or an idiot to want to visit Glacier National Park in April? Shorter term, I have this Friday off, will it be good traveling weather to go 25 miles away or should I stick to snow shoeing in the local park (because of a blizzard, or perhaps it&#x27;ll be -20F again and even the locals stay close to home when its below -10F)<p>WRT polite monetization, if your site took off and I participated, if my wife bought me a logo-d tee shirt for my birthday, I might wear it when hiking, in the summer anyway. Or amazon affiliate links might not be too intrusive.<p>Regarding my suggestions above, take them positively as intended.
jasonkester超过 11 年前
Might want to work on the search.<p>I typed in &quot;Goat Rocks&quot;, since, well, Goat Rocks. No results.<p>Then I clicked &quot;Discover&quot;, which prominently featured Glacier Lake, which has the intro text: <i>Glacier Lake is a hike within Goat Rocks Wilderness in western Washington state.</i><p>... Shouldn&#x27;t that have come up in my search then?
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sytelus超过 11 年前
Tried out several popular hikes in Washington and didn&#x27;t find any. Almost every state has outdoor organization which maintains trail list. You should consider scrapping them and seeding your site (I believe most sites are open &amp; nonprofit). For Washington, it&#x27;s wts.org.
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kartikkumar超过 11 年前
Great site! I think there are a lot of fun things to add in the &quot;hiker&quot; space. I would have found it more intuitive to start with the map view actually, instead of a text search, since I think most users will consult your website AFTER knowing where they are located, rather than already having pinpointed specific trails.<p>I&#x27;ve been thinking of creating a hiking app for a while now, but just haven&#x27;t been able to free up time. When I was living in Berkeley, I think I went hiking pretty much every single weekend, and I could think of a ton of things I&#x27;d have liked to have been able to access on my phone to make my experiences that much richer.<p>Anyway, good stuff and kudos for open-sourcing it all!
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KevinBongart超过 11 年前
Hi, this is awesome!<p>Hopefully useful feedback: when I saw that, I immediately thought &quot;what are some nice hikes around where I live?&quot; and even though the tagline is &quot;Find beautiful hikes&quot;, the homepage doesn&#x27;t suggest that I can find the answer here. Maybe that&#x27;s not the point of hike.io, maybe there&#x27;s another website that would help me better, I don&#x27;t know.<p>Anyway, the big picture of the Narrows, which is one of the very few hikes I&#x27;ve done, inspired me to look for new trails around where I live. Thanks for that!<p>And good luck, I can&#x27;t wait to see how hike.io will grow!
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codingdave超过 11 年前
Defaulting to a search by name makes no sense to me. If I already know the hike name, I probably have resource to tell me about it.<p>Likewise on the &#x27;Discover&#x27; feature. If I am looking to go on a hike, seeing nice picture from 4 states away doesn&#x27;t help me.<p>The map search is where it is at, if you get enough content in there. Right now, the content is so limited that it is not even worth discussing.<p>It does show promise, but I&#x27;m also not sure why I would use your site vs. any of the other dozen sites that can tell me where my local hikes are.
lukejduncan超过 11 年前
Is there an opportunity to use this to build on a dataset like Open Street Maps? I don&#x27;t know much about that space, but it seems to me that your users will either be consuming hiking trail maps, or generating them. If they are generating them it&#x27;d be awesome if there were a way to contribute the data to some copyleft source. Assuming that&#x27;s something you&#x27;re willing to do.<p>Admittedly, Google Maps is much prettier than I remember.
gms7777超过 11 年前
It&#x27;s a very nice looking site. Here are some ideas for future things that I would find useful at least:<p>- Dated reviews and pictures. This is one of the biggest things I look for when searching out hikes and haven&#x27;t found a reliable site for<p>- Hiking buddies? I think adding an &quot;I want to hike this&quot; button, and having some way for people to contact each other and plan hikes would be cool and I&#x27;d definitely take advantage of it.
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ateevchopra超过 11 年前
Hello @zakn. Great site. I have one question. Can you please share from where are you getting the description of the hikes. For Example: <a href="http://hike.io/hikes/salkantay-trek" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hike.io&#x2F;hikes&#x2F;salkantay-trek</a><p>Are you manually typing out all the data or you hired someone to type all this out. I know you are using community to edit this , but who made contribution for the first time ?
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bedspax超过 11 年前
So cool! It&#x27;s something similar to what we have built at Metwit:<p><a href="http://weatherguru.metwit.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;weatherguru.metwit.com&#x2F;</a> based on Foursquare API + Metwit weather API.<p>Any feedback? <a href="http://hiking.metwit.com/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hiking.metwit.com&#x2F;</a><p>Thanks!
ris超过 11 年前
Google maps? In 2014? For outdoors-y stuff? <i>really</i>?<p>(the site is beautifully designed though)
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Thiz超过 11 年前
Search is useless if I want to discover new trails I don&#x27;t even know the names. Show me a huge list grouped by city, state (or country) and tons, and I mean fucking tons of pics.<p>Plus maps and info on how to get there.
earendil超过 11 年前
zakn, since you said you&#x27;re still trying to figure out where hike.io stands in the internet of hiking, you should know there is an app called &quot;Yonder&quot; that focuses on high quality photos of the outdoors, submitted by members of the Yonder community (who are by design mostly hiking types). They have an iPhone app and have a UI modeled after Instagram. I&#x27;ve used it to find hikes around my area. You should check it out for the some of the social-oriented features it has.
mosselman超过 11 年前
I like the use of graphics on the site.<p>To make the home-page a bit nicer you could include a list of examples to try out in the search bar. Right now it is hard to decide what to type into the box.
Ihmahr超过 11 年前
WHY would you have to search hikes by name instead of location?
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chany2超过 11 年前
Awesome!<p>Dead simple, clean UI, and just great picks of landscape photos as well.<p>Good job man.
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CatsoCatsoCatso超过 11 年前
What qualifies as a hike? How far? I don&#x27;t want to list what others won&#x27;t see as &#x27;true&#x27; hikes.
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simonebrunozzi超过 11 年前
Feature suggestion: let me enter where I live, and offer me 2-3 great hikes that are X miles away.
g3orge超过 11 年前
yes. I thousand times yes. I&#x27;m always seeking for sites like this (anyone any recommendations?). You should enrich it more with advice, equipment requirements etc etc... (and of course with more hikes :P)
defcon84超过 11 年前
the &quot;Four mile trail&quot; is 9.6 miles :) <a href="http://hike.io/hikes/four-mile-trail" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hike.io&#x2F;hikes&#x2F;four-mile-trail</a>
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imattf超过 11 年前
looks great and a great idea. don&#x27;t forget tag support to allow users to group hikes by region (i.e. hikes around &quot;yosemite&quot;) as the content increases.
stevewilhelm超过 11 年前
Wondering from where you are sourcing your photos.
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ptabatt88超过 11 年前
I love it. I will definitely add some trails!
morganherlocker超过 11 年前
Elegant design, great job!