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How not to write a job post

26 点作者 raghuHack超过 11 年前

9 条评论

codegeek超过 11 年前
I commented on a similar post a couple of months ago but will re-paste it here.<p>A good job posting in my opinion must include:<p>- LOCATION or REMOTE. You can talk all about your great company, awesome team, great perks but if you don&#x27;t tell me where do I need to go, it is really not very useful.<p>- COMPANY NAME: I hate it when recruiters post &quot;Fortune 500 client&quot;. Really ? Could you be any more specific ? &lt;&#x2F;sarcasm&gt;<p>- SALARY RANGE: &quot;Market Rate Salary&quot;, &quot;Salary: Competitve&quot;, &quot;Salary: commensurate on experience&quot; is all bullshit. Give me a range. I understand that the exact salary could depend on how good you are but every employer has a range. Specifically big companies. Also, please make the range reasonable. 60K-150K is bullshit because then you are just throwing numbers for the sake of it. 60K-85K or 100K-130K is more reasonable.<p>- TEAM DESCRIPTION: Describe the team as much as possible without necessarily revealing personal info. I would rather like to read &quot;We are a team of 5 people spread across the globe where 2 of us do the back end dev in NYC.......&quot;. Don&#x27;t give me generics like &quot;Excellent motivated team working on world changing projects looking for the next ninja to join our awesome team&quot;. Really again ?<p>- WHY ARE YOU LOOKING TO HIRE: This is a must for me. Is this position open just because you have some cash to burn to show good to the management that you are &quot;growing&quot; the team or is there really a pain point that can be addressed by hiring. What problems are you facing currently that could be solved by this hire ? It is better to be needed than being a nice to have.<p>- BENEFITS: This one is a nice to have. But again be specific if you can. You offer 401K&#x2F;pension ? awesome. now tell me what the employer match percentage is. Or at least link to your HR benefits site if it is externally available. I am always surprised to see how little you know about benefits until you are hired. In the US, health insurance is a big deal. I want to know upfront what kinds of plans are offered which could impact my salary requirements as well.
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lyndonh超过 11 年前
Can I have a quick micro rant here: I don&#x27;t want to know about perks when I&#x27;m job hunting. Tell me about the type of work (not a wishlist of skills you want), the ball park pay (not a range), the location (I&#x27;m looking at you, agencies), the level (entry level vs management) and the type of hours (I&#x27;m the type of weirdo that has a life outside of work). I don&#x27;t care if you have free lunch or free t-shirts. I expect to work hard and get paid for it. P.S. Forget the marathon gauntlet interview with multiple skype calls; that&#x27;s why I send you a copy of my resume and give you references. OK, rant over. Please carry on. Nothing to see here.
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scrabble超过 11 年前
There are a few things I want to know about when looking at job posts: tech stack, target salary, what the company is, and a small list of perks. This will give me an idea of what the office environment is like.<p>I hate it when job postings start listing out needed skills. I read one the other day listing 5+ years of HTML5 and CSS3 experience. When it comes to years of experience, you&#x27;re more likely looking for a particular level of knowledge and some people are going to get there in a year or less, and others will not get there no matter how many years of experience they have.
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MikeTaylor超过 11 年前
Apart from very confused about what an adjective it, this article nails it. Just because it&#x27;s &quot;ninja&quot; and &quot;rockstar&quot; instead of &quot;monetise&quot; and &quot;synergy&quot; doesn&#x27;t make it any less meaningless jargon.
krstck超过 11 年前
Can&#x27;t access because the site is down, but I have a lot of feelings about this topic. Specifically, please never, <i>ever</i>, use one of these words to describe the developer you are hunting:<p>ninja, cowboy, rockstar, superstar, virtuoso, obsessed, &quot;lives and breathes code&quot;, knowledgeable about some arbitrary activity or hobby to show how quirky and social the team is...<p>It gets tiring, as a professional, to read these job postings that sound like they&#x27;re an ad for a teenage boy&#x27;s summer camp. Usually the non-programmer postings will read like, you know, jobs for adults. Also, when you&#x27;re asking for a &quot;virtuoso&quot; for your 60k junior dev spot, I don&#x27;t know whether that means you don&#x27;t know what that word means or you&#x27;re just delusional. Either way, it sounds like everyone definitely has a puffed up ego.
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codingdave超过 11 年前
In my mind, a job posting, and the responses to it, are just intended to start a conversation.<p>Getting all worked up over what is or is not in the posting seem kind of silly to me. If you don&#x27;t like the way it was written, fine - don&#x27;t apply.<p>If you have questions, just apply. If they contact you, ask those questions. If they don&#x27;t contact you, the answers didn&#x27;t matter anyway.<p>Applying for a job is not a declaration that you want to work there. It is a statement that you are interested in discussing it more. All the real information gathering, in both directions, happens during the interview process.
MikeTaylor超过 11 年前
If your job ad doesn&#x27;t give some indication of salary, then it&#x27;s literally useless to anyone worthwhile who might otherwise consider applying. Good candidates will only apply for jobs that they feel are worthy of them. If they can&#x27;t even tell whether you&#x27;re going offer $10k less than they&#x27;re already on, they&#x27;ll just move on to the next listing.
arunagarwal超过 11 年前
And site seems down :-)
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bluetidepro超过 11 年前
Anyone have a mirror of this? It seems to be down...