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Google Drops Discussions Search Filter and Others

81 点作者 tszyn超过 11 年前

20 条评论

sentenza超过 11 年前
The promise was that, as search engines get better, there would be no need for bookmarking and downloading, since all the content in the world is only one sloppy search query away.<p>Somehow, I seem to have ignored this stubbornly and instead bookmarked pages, downloaded videos and copied strings (!) out of the web for years.<p>Not that it did me much good, I now have thousands of inconsistently sorted bookmarks and a bunch of directories filled with assorted data.<p>What this article tells me (again), is that because you can&#x27;t trust search engines to behave in a predictable manner, you can&#x27;t even be sure you&#x27;ll be able to find the stuff that you know is online.
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alextingle超过 11 年前
This is the final nail in the coffin of DejaNews. Just another step in Google&#x27;s continuing mission to make their Search product worse &amp; worse.<p>It&#x27;s baffling.
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midgetjones超过 11 年前
You still can, just not as obviously: <a href="https://www.google.com/?tbm=dsc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;?tbm=dsc</a>
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6cxs2hd6超过 11 年前
Why would you want to search Discussions or Blogs? Everything interesting is already on Google+. &#x2F;sarcasm<p>You know, someday Google+ will no longer be the &quot;strategory&quot; priority. There will be a new CEO. All the hands on the corporate ouija board will shift in yet another direction.<p>At which point, all these moves to deprecate parts of the web, in an effort to shore up G+? They will look even more unfortunate. So much discarded, for so little gain.
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nemof超过 11 年前
I also notice that depending on your search terms it now changes the order of the menu items; I was very surprised a few day ago when I noticed that Images wasn&#x27;t the second list option on the screen.<p>To test this seach for &quot;images&quot; or &quot;videos&quot; on google. It will change the list order.<p>This is extremely irritating as it tries to guess whether you&#x27;re trying to search for a certain type of of thing (text&#x2F;images&#x2F;vid&#x2F;news&#x2F;shopping&#x2F;etc), as it frequently guesses wrong, and then sends us searching for the right list option because they&#x27;ve been shuffled round.<p>Designers, do not change your menu item order unless you&#x27;re damned sure you&#x27;re gonna get it right. Confusing your users is never helpful.<p><pre><code> ** edit ** </code></pre> Ah, I see the article mentions this. Well it&#x27;s still bloody annoying.
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mhb超过 11 年前
Maybe this is a good spot to mention how much the updated Google Maps also suck. Pretty though.
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hysan超过 11 年前
Any alternatives? I asked about this two days ago but got no answers: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7124132" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7124132</a><p>Also, I know that &quot;?tbm=dsc&quot; works but I expect the quality of the results to start falling (it already has for a while) since Google probably isn&#x27;t going to work to improve the filter.
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valas超过 11 年前
Everyone is dissing Google here. Perhaps understandably so since most folks in HN are advanced users and an advanced search feature was removed.<p>Google is driven by data and sorry but advanced users are a mere blip in that data. I can bet there was a gazilion user studies that showed that your grandma was super confused when 10 options would pop up when she pressed &#x27;More&#x27;. The same studies showed that she was much less so confused when 4 options were presented, increasing engine usability for her.<p>My point here is that some folks attribute sinister motives (more search dollars), while the actual motive is just to make the interface usable for more people.<p>(Disclaimer: I work at Google, not in search though.)
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tambourine_man超过 11 年前
I keep dreaming of an open source, distributed search engine and social network.<p>But I guess things will have to get much worse before they get better.
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brudgers超过 11 年前
<i>&quot;Now when you search, the type of results you can select at the top of the page will vary depending on what makes sense for your search.&quot;</i><p>Makes sense to Google, that is. Shopping and apps make sense. A discussion that might take an hour to read or prompt one to read further discussions instead of shopping, liking or checking in doesn&#x27;t.<p>It&#x27;s a future where I decide to go out to eat because I can&#x27;t find a recipe I like. I climb in my self driving car and it takes me to Taco Bell. And only Taco Bell.
whizzkid超过 11 年前
Am i the only one recently having moments like &quot;wait a second!&quot;, while using google services?<p>Connecting every google service to a single one might be the best thing for Google, BUT, not for me!<p>Google, you are almost merged with whole Internet thing, so stop forcing people into using a single system!!<p>I like and use gmail often but don&#x27;t want to be logged in while checking youtube!
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blueblob超过 11 年前
Is there an operator similar to &quot;define:&quot; that you can use? I can find a link for operators, but I do not know how up to date it is.<p><a href="http://www.googleguide.com/advanced_operators_reference.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.googleguide.com&#x2F;advanced_operators_reference.html</a>
dzhiurgis超过 11 年前
This train has derailed a while ago.<p>You couldn&#x27;t search discussions AND verbatim.<p>Verbatim got broken a while ago too.<p>Now they explicitly state that they skipped some of your search terms (presumably for better paid keywords).<p>Oh, and don&#x27;t forget paying link-scheming SEO clients.
frigg超过 11 年前
You can use this url* although it seems to me it&#x27;s inferior to what they offered previously. Maybe it&#x27;s just my imagination.<p>* <a href="https://www.google.com/webhp?tbm=dsc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.google.com&#x2F;webhp?tbm=dsc</a>
Piskvorrr超过 11 年前
If this isn&#x27;t ironic, I don&#x27;t know what is.
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mankypro超过 11 年前
Duck Duck Go.<p>Jus&#x27; sayin&#x27;
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merrua超过 11 年前
I am finding google search more and more doesnt find what I am looking for. Its frustrating.
dgabriel超过 11 年前
I am very sad to see the blog option go away. I used that all the time.
agumonkey超过 11 年前
Sorry to simplify, but I remember when Google enabled,
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leterter超过 11 年前
I want that f--- filter back, it&#x27;s the best thing about Google...