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AOL chief cuts 401(k) benefits, blames Obamacare and two “distressed babies”

26 点作者 joshwa超过 11 年前

14 条评论

AceJohnny2超过 11 年前
I&#x27;m surprised the company (not the insurance) had to pay that much for the babies medical bills.<p>I had a friend die to leukemia a year ago (she had just turned 27). 6 months prior to that, her first month in Stanford Hospital for chemo led to a bill to the insurance on the order of one million dollars.<p>I don&#x27;t know how much the insurance billed the company (a small one without AOL&#x27;s income), but they upheld it.<p>Tim Armstrong is the same CEO who last year fired Abel Lentz, chief creative officer of Patch, on the spot during his company-wide layout call [1]. I&#x27;m inclined to label him a Gordon Gekko-level psychopath.<p>[1] <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2013/08/14/aols-chief-demonstrates-the-worst-way-to-fire-someone/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;susanadams&#x2F;2013&#x2F;08&#x2F;14&#x2F;aols-chief...</a>
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mattdeboard超过 11 年前
There are things you tally in the back of your mind as costs -- like, for example, a couple of outliers in the health benefit cost spreadsheet that correspond to newborns with urgent medical needs -- and then there are things you kinda-sorta bring up to the media as having caused you to cut benefits back.<p>It doesn&#x27;t reflect too well on this guy&#x27;s people skills if something in his brain didn&#x27;t say, &quot;I&#x27;m about to blame sick children for cutting my employees&#x27; benefits, maybe I should shut up.&quot;
minimax超过 11 年前
<i>&quot;We had two AOL-ers that had distressed babies that were born that we paid a million dollars each to make sure those babies were OK in general,&quot; said Armstrong</i><p>AOL does something like $2 billion in revenue per year. This cost would have been a fraction of one tenth of one percent of revenue. What. a. shithead.
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staunch超过 11 年前
Old style, hired gun, selfish, cost-cutter CEO with absolutely no original ideas, or any clue how to turn the company around. It appears AOL&#x27;s corporate culture is as out of date as their products.<p>Why would anyone voluntarily work with someone who&#x27;s obviously such a shitty human being? The board of directors must be as bad at their jobs as he is.
fleitz超过 11 年前
Here&#x27;s the thing, it&#x27;s a hot market, if you work at AOL, just walk out the door. It&#x27;s Feb so you&#x27;re not missing much contribution.<p>Or calculate how much you lost by the decision and go ask for a raise for 4 times as much. Tell them you gave $100 to someone down the street because their baby was sick and so now you need more money because your wife doesn&#x27;t like the way the quarterlies are going to look after you spent $200 million at the bar getting drunk.
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drawkbox超过 11 年前
This is why both healthcare and benefits from employment beyond cash and salary are many times bad. Companies should have no part in your healthcare&#x2F;insurance, retirement savings or any other private aspect beyond reimbursing you for costs. I think independent pools of healthcare is the only way, outside of a company, wider nets with less impact.
jobu超过 11 年前
This seems more like a political statement than an actual explanation.<p>Armstrong pissed away $200 million on Patch, and is still blaming the $7.1 million in Obamacare costs for reducing employee benefits.
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jseip超过 11 年前
The worst thing about a struggling company is the petty, demoralizing measures management takes to cut costs. Save a few million in 401k costs but waste eight figures in decreased productivity, increased employee turnover, and lower morale overall. This seems shortsighted.
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mkaziz超过 11 年前
I feel for those poor women whose colleagues probably know about their &quot;distressed&quot; babies.
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outside1234超过 11 年前
tl;dr: Tim Armstrong is a sociopath. AOL is a terrible place to work. Take your skills elsewhere.
ergoproxy超过 11 年前
We just saw that big tech firms collude to hold down employee pay! See <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1699529" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=1699529</a><p>That means, in effect, there&#x27;s only one employer in the tech industry. So the labor market in tech is not an example of a perfectly competitive market. It actually follows a monopsony model.<p>In a monopsonistic labor market, raising wages&#x2F;benefits doesn&#x27;t reduce employment, it actually increases employment, increases output and lowers prices...all good things! See my comments here for a fuller explanation: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7185717" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7185717</a><p>Therefore, Obamacare did <i>not</i> hurt the tech labor market. Tim Armstrong is full of $hit. They should take away his degree in economics if he really believes his own bullcrap. He was just covering his own a$$. Maybe what&#x27;s hurting his employees, stockholders and customers is his own overblown $3,216,534 salary in 2011. Source: <a href="http://www.forbes.com/profile/tim-armstrong/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;profile&#x2F;tim-armstrong&#x2F;</a>
Bahamut超过 11 年前
Sounds like he just hurt his company&#x27;s prospects for hiring quality employees here in the DMV area with that crap explanation.
_delirium超过 11 年前
Tim Armstrong already has a reputation as being a bit of a jerk: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6197081" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=6197081</a><p>Previously, though, he was head of advertising at Google (1999-2009), and I don&#x27;t remember him causing much negative publicity in that role.
anigbrowl超过 11 年前
It&#x27;s not often someones actually makes my skin crawl.