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Why Teachers Won't Be Replaced By Software

23 点作者 eah13超过 11 年前

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wehadfun超过 11 年前
This &quot;fire bad teachers&quot; thing is stupid.<p>You can&#x27;t compare a teacher that has a class of 15 native english speaking, upper middle class, 2 parent house holds kids to a teacher with a class of 32 english as a second langurage, poor, hungry, cold, kids that are children of drug addicts, drunks, refugees especially using test written in English.<p>Mark said something like poor comunities have a problem with bad teachers. WTF? How about poor students have a problem learning regardless of who the teacher is.<p>software could work for the motivated learner. But so would an abacus or a pen and paper.
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Patrick_Devine超过 11 年前
If you look at the vast majority of MOOCs, they frankly kind of suck. Usually they&#x27;re just a collection of poorly edited videos with maybe a forum where students can comment. They&#x27;re on a fixed timeline where assignments need to be done linearly at set intervals, just the same as you would get if you were taking the course in person.<p>Compare that to something more dynamic like Khan Academy, where the subjects all build on each other like a directed graph. Students learn at their own pace, and gamification techniques get them to come back for more. Subject mastery isn&#x27;t based on tests, but is constantly checked using heuristics which can determine whether a student needs help in a particular area. Oh, and grades get thrown out the window since everyone achieves complete mastery in the subject.<p>If you think of replacing teachers with a traditional Udacity style MOOC, yeah, I can&#x27;t really see it happening. The only benefit they offer is that you don&#x27;t have to be at the course in person. Could something like Khan Academy replace teachers? Clearly not entirely, however there are so many more benefits to learning this way, that it certainly is in the realm of possibility.
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lifeisstillgood超过 11 年前
Teachers weren&#x27;t replaced by books either. Who on earth thinks that they will be replaced by software?<p>I learnt from books and was guided by my teachers. I expect my kids will learn from books, videos and software and still be guided by teachers.<p>And as someone who has spent a fruitless day googling for how to do a relatively simple task I can confidently state that mentoring by an accomplished human beats software any day of the week.
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WalterSear超过 11 年前
Teachers <i>are</i> being replaced by software.<p>And the reason we need to fire the bad ones is that, unlike software, you can&#x27;t just replicate their product wherever you need and let the bad ones wilt away through neglect.
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ckoglmeier超过 11 年前
IMO, this whole discussion is flawed as it assumes that the answer is teachers OR software. This is not a zero sum game.<p>The answer, like the answer to most things, is likely in the middle. Software including but not limited to lecture content from subject matter experts will enhance and modify the way the classroom interacts allowing local &quot;teachers&quot; to focus on their students.
HeyImAlex超过 11 年前
Everything you can learn in an undergraduate cs course (and so much more) has already been written in a hundred different books all available on amazon for a considerably lower price and shipped right to your door. If information was <i>all</i> that teachers (and educational institutions) offered, they would have been replaced a long time ago.<p>And I&#x27;m saying this as someone who prefers to learn from books. So what else is there? Individualized attention? Community and networking? Human interaction? Motivation and structure? Signaling? Probably some combination.<p>Any <i>real</i> replacement needs to address all of these; video lectures, digital notes, and online questions are just reinventing what I can already pick up at the book store.
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lmkg超过 11 年前
Apropos of nothing, one internet guy&#x27;s unjustified personal opinions on the future of teaching and software: The one-to-many &quot;lecturing&quot; interaction should be replaced by software, in order to give teachers more free time for the one-on-one interaction with students. One-on-one personalized feedback on progress is extremely valuable to students, and more difficult to automate, so it seems to me the best use of teachers&#x27; time.
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gettingreal超过 11 年前
No. Teachers will be replaced with mentors, who will help guide the students learning. Or teachers will become these mentors.<p>However, the One to Many lectures WILL be replaced by Software.<p>Just Watch.
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vikp超过 11 年前
I think the thing that is most often missing from educational software (and most online course delivery formats) is the most important thing: motivation.<p>The teachers that I most fondly remember weren&#x27;t the ones that taught me the most material, or ensured that I got the highest test scores. They were the teachers who inspired me; the ones who unlocked a deep curiosity and desire for learning inside me.<p>The current system doesn&#x27;t care that much about motivation (although it is changing). You take classes largely because you have to. You learn so that you can pass a test.<p>Openness in teaching is a big piece of the puzzle, but it isn&#x27;t the end of the road. In software, for example, I would argue that by becoming more open, motivation to improve was increased among developers (I don&#x27;t want to be the one with the terrible code on Github). Of course, in software, the target of openness and the one who needs to be motivated are the same person; you. This isn&#x27;t the same in education. Increasing openness among teachers will undoubtedly have an effect, but the customer for education isn&#x27;t the teacher.<p>We are essentially circling the problem by saying &quot;students aren&#x27;t learning, let&#x27;s change things around with the teachers.&quot; I think that teachers are very important, and I definitely don&#x27;t advocate mass firings. I just really hope that we find a way to rephrase the goal to something more along the lines of &quot;students aren&#x27;t learning, how can we work with the student?&quot; If this is teaching basic stuff largely through online methods and having teachers spend more time with students, great. If this is increasing transparency surrounding schools, great. Personally, I hope that some combination of better software that automates basic stuff and allows teachers to work one on one with students more often, more information, and more training will do it.
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bogs_carut超过 11 年前
Teachers won&#x27;t be replaced by software in environments where human discourse is necessary or valuable.<p>But research professors who either can&#x27;t lecture or don&#x27;t try to lecture well? It&#x27;s almost inevitable. Lectures are a commodity that can be recorded and broadcast at a massive scale. Individual or small-group instruction isn&#x27;t a commodity.
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dsk139超过 11 年前
Relevant article: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7030778" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7030778</a><p>I think the author is spot on. I think the idea of firing all teachers to get the results you want undermines the profession as a whole and I really appreciate his analogy to firing the &quot;bottom 10%&quot; of programmers. There is just so much more a teacher has to do to reach &quot;success&quot;, especially when dealing with low-income communities, students with disabilities, or even different levels of aptitude&#x2F;learning styles. I don&#x27;t see teachers replacing software with the current solutions.<p>Credentials: I&#x27;m a former TFA teacher turned software engineer and I tutor web development in 1-to-1 sessions on nights&#x2F;weekends.
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ergoproxy超过 11 年前
It doesn&#x27;t matter whether robots or humans are teaching your kids, if the whole approach to education is wrong:<p>Current model of education: Multidisciplinary, value-free, with an emphasis on standardized tests.<p>Compare this to:<p>Alfred North Whitehead&#x27;s reform model: Transdisciplinary, values-laden, with an emphasis on the importance of imagination. See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_North_Whitehead#Views_on_education" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Alfred_North_Whitehead#Views_on...</a><p>Note that <i>multidisciplinary</i> means teaching small parts of a large number of disconnected subjects, whereas <i>transdisciplinarity</i> means teaching a few important ideas that organically link many different subjects and that apply to real life.
dashr超过 11 年前
I&#x27;m the founder of an edTech where we are using software to _IMPROVE_ teacher training. Teachers, especially new teachers, need a lot of support, not just from in school peers, but outside of school. They also need constructive feedback on their practice (from peer teachers, parents, and students). Current training is one size fits all and not personalized. Current evaluation only focuses on test scores.
aaron695超过 11 年前
Yes they will.<p>Same incorrect argument people always pull out about with automation. Prove you need some =&gt; then you need all.<p>Software will make teachers 10%+ better then they&#x27;ll fire the bottom 10% (or just 10%)<p>As it is class size mattering is a myth. A good teacher can teacher quite a large class. Studies don&#x27;t show a small class makes a lot of difference.
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joe_the_user超过 11 年前
The teaching of a good teacher can&#x27;t be replaced by software.<p>Unfortunately, a whole series of public policy decisions have forced teachers of multiple levels to teach badly.<p>And there&#x27;s no reason not to replace someone lecturing to a 200 person class or someone merely prepping for standardized tests with software.
vezzy-fnord超过 11 年前
Teachers won&#x27;t be replaced entirely by software, they will be augmented by it.<p>However their influence and once revered role in society as educators, proliferators of knowledge, will be dethroned by a growing increase of digital information and autodidacticism.
joelgrus超过 11 年前
I don&#x27;t know where you work, but at every company I&#x27;ve worked at they <i>do</i> fire bad coders (as well as good coders who are hurting the team for some other reason).
georgemcbay超过 11 年前
Every job will be replaced with software (and hardware for jobs with a physical component).<p>The only question for each profession is &quot;when?&quot;.
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volune超过 11 年前
Until they are.