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Windows 8 designer: Why Microsoft forced Metro on us all

37 点作者 alt_大约 11 年前

19 条评论

Aqwis大约 11 年前
It took some getting used to, but I now much prefer Windows 8 to Windows 7 on my laptop (that said, I still use W7 on my desktop PC).<p>Why? It simply allows me to do much more without touching the touchpad. I power on the laptop, press Ctrl+Alt+Del, start typing my password without having to awkwardly alt+tab around as I would in W7. I log in to the desktop, press Win and start typing c,h,r...enter, Chrome starts. I press Ctrl+L, type a URL or a search, scroll on the page using pgdown or pgup... only having to use the touchpad if I want to click on a link or select some text.<p>Sure, I could do much of this in W7 if I wanted to, but W7&#x27;s start menu search is far inferior to W8&#x27;s Metro search, and I would have to ALT+TAB a lot more around if I wanted to avoid using the touchpad.
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bunderbunder大约 11 年前
&gt; Try to add a powerful new feature to Windows, and casual users balk. One example Miller cited is multiple desktops, a feature in OS X and Linux, but still not built into Windows. Each time Microsoft conducted user tests on multiple desktops, casual users got confused, prompting the company to cut it.<p>The same feature&#x27;s confusing to causal OS X and Linux users, too. Which is most definitively <i>not a problem</i>, because casual users won&#x27;t be coming into contact with that feature, anyway. OS X is a single-desktop interface until you actively choose to create a second desktop. Most Linux setups behave roughly the same. On territory this well-trodden, it should have required precisely zero lateral thinking for Microsoft to figure out how to respond to that focus group result.<p>Similarly, when Apple added a tablet-inspired application launcher to OS X, they figured out a great way to make it both easy-to-access and non-disruptive, without displacing any existing workflows. The launcher&#x27;s there and works well for users who want it, and is effectively non-existent for users who don&#x27;t.<p>That anecdote from the article, if true, is yet another delightfully pithy illustration of Microsoft&#x27;s fundamental difficulty with UX: They don&#x27;t grasp the difference between &quot;one size fits all&quot; and &quot;all fit one size&quot;.
bitJericho大约 11 年前
&quot;Does Microsoft need to force-feed us a not-so-good version of Windows before we can get something better?&quot;<p>Am I the only one that remembers the hate from the Windows XP start menu?
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pavlov大约 11 年前
IMHO, one huge thing they got wrong with Windows 8 Metro&#x2F;&quot;Modern UI&quot; on non-touch computers was to repurpose the right mouse button in a completely unexpected way.<p>On a Windows 8 tablet, you swipe up from the bottom of the screen to open the &quot;control bar&quot; of a Metro application (I don&#x27;t know what is the official name of that UI element). This is crucial to know because the bar is hidden by default, yet it contains fundamental actions like deleting a message in Mail or navigating to a URL in Internet Explorer.<p>When using a mouse instead, you&#x27;re supposed to right-click to bring up the &quot;control bar&quot;. This is completely non-discoverable and also goes against every established UI convention: for the past 20+ years, the right button has been used for context menus, but suddenly in Metro it brings up a hidden application-global menu instead.<p>Windows 8.1 tried to fix this by adding a button in the corner that brings up the bar, so at least you can find it by clicking around. But that&#x27;s still not good enough. The bar makes sense on a tablet where screen real estate is limited and the swipe feels very natural, but on a desktop it&#x27;s just a bad toolbar implementation that adds extra mouse navigation to simple tasks because people never figure out the right-click shortcut.
MaysonL大约 11 年前
The casual users I know who have been exposed to Windows 8 have uniformly had the reaction <i>&quot;WTF?&quot;</i>, often violently and expletiveladenly expressed.
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kohanz大约 11 年前
Did we really need insider information to confirm that Windows 8 was designed strictly for casual users?
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stusmall大约 11 年前
They say they contacted MS to verify his identity but didn&#x27;t include their reply. From reading this article without the context of the reddit thread I would venture to guess if he really was then it is past tense now.
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Kapura大约 11 年前
&gt;In one respect, Miller is saying that Windows 8 was the price we had to pay to get to a smoother and friendlier Windows 9. If so, is that really the best way to treat your customers? Does Microsoft need to force-feed us a not-so-good version of Windows before we can get something better? Or was Windows 8 an unnecessary slip-up on the road to the future?<p>What a load of trash. People need to stop judging Microsoft products in terms of unreleased products. I understand that the hackers et al. who use the power features in Windows are upset that MS changed the game on them, but putting Metro as the forefront of the UI was, as the article describes, a necessary step in getting users to actually use it.<p>Metro UI is quite good for browsing content and navigating to the things that you&#x27;re certain to want. It&#x27;s good looking and it works pretty well. Just because it&#x27;s your launch screen doesn&#x27;t mean it&#x27;s supposed to be the only tool you ever need. If you log on to windows 8 to check facebook, it&#x27;s awesome. If you log on to manage hard drive partitions, you&#x27;re going to need to be looking elsewhere.<p>Microsoft is trying to make products for the consumer market. If you want to blame anybody for Metro, blame Apple. iOS and other simple, clean user experiences showed consumers that there is a better way than the old desktop standards. The applications you want can be at your fingertips, instead of in a button in the corner. Microsoft HAD to make the initial experience of the UI simpler to stay competitive in the modern market for personal computing.
mschuster91大约 11 年前
Casual users are like sheep. Sometimes, you gotta force &#x27;em for their own good.<p>The author is correct, Metro is the heaven for all those grandmas and family relatives who before would call&#x2F;mail us on &quot;how do I power on the computer&quot;-type problems. Now, you put &#x27;em in front of a Metro PC and boom, your incoming calls reduce by half.
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dman大约 11 年前
How far will this divide go? There is a desktop version skype and a metro version (ditto with IE). I recently cringed when I had to explain to a casual user that they should be using the desktop version of Skype instead of the metro version. Having to explain that there are two different versions of Skype was jarring and bizarre.
tempestn大约 11 年前
This actually makes me hopeful. It was looking a lot like Windows 8 was the first step toward phasing out the desktop entirely. Certainly providing the simplest, most streamlined default experience for casual users makes sense, for the reasons specified. If they&#x27;re explicitly thinking that that will then allow them to provide more advanced tools for power users as well, since they will no longer be right on the surface to confuse casual users, that&#x27;s fantastic. Makes me hopeful that Windows 9 will continue the trend shared by Microsoft OSes and Star Trek movies.
higherpurpose大约 11 年前
Funny because it&#x27;s the <i>casual</i> users that are staying away from Windows 8. At least the &quot;power users&quot;, if they really have no choice but using Windows 8, at least they can get around it. But casual users have no idea how to do that, and they are also who will be the most bothered by the &quot;sudden change&quot; in how Windows works.
quarterto大约 11 年前
<p><pre><code> self-described UX designer </code></pre> The &quot;self-described&quot; here seems redundant and patronising. It sounds like &quot;<i>so-called</i> UX designer&quot; or &quot;<i>supposed</i> UX designer&quot;. This is presumably the guy&#x27;s actual job title; do you see CNet saying &quot;self-described CEO&quot;? Nope.
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brudgers大约 11 年前
If you ever wonder why complaints about Metro rarely involve system administrators it is because Microsoft started the interface redesign at the command line with PowerShell.<p>And for a GUI, Metro provides significant and logical access from the keyboard.
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GSimon大约 11 年前
If Microsoft purposely did that with the intention of making the desktop default in Windows 9, that&#x27;s kind of smart trick. A cruel, but smart one, that is if they do make the desktop in Windows 9..
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skc大约 11 年前
Funny enough, there&#x27;s no proof this guy was a Windows 8 designer.<p>Wonder if this is a case of &quot;It&#x27;s true because it&#x27;s on the internet&quot;
radicalbyte大约 11 年前
Interesting; I&#x27;ve just switched to Mac from PC and the thing I love more than anything is the virtual desktops.<p>Windows is just painful to use nowadays.
throwwit大约 11 年前
I see it as a big push to monetize screen real estate just like what&#x27;s happening with xbox.
acqq大约 11 年前
&quot;It was for your good.&quot; Pure spin, no content. Flagged.
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