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New message from Mt. Gox

156 点作者 mxx超过 11 年前

27 条评论

Udo超过 11 年前
I&#x27;m one of those who lost a good amount on MtGox. It wasn&#x27;t in there because I thought they are a bank, I put it there because I like to speculate from time to time. As such I was prepared to lose most if not all of it anyway. I didn&#x27;t expect things to go wrong so thoroughly, but still that was the premise of my deposits there.<p>So from that perspective, I&#x27;m not really mad about them losing the money. It&#x27;s unfortunate, it even really sucks, but shit happens. Sometimes that shit is an apocalyptic event.<p>What makes me angry though is their utter failure to communicate, to admit what happened. I feel like they&#x27;re taunting their ex customers, or at the very least they don&#x27;t give a crap about anything at all. That&#x27;s what&#x27;s really off-putting, and that&#x27;s what breeds speculation about them being the ones who perpetrated the theft in the first place (which I personally don&#x27;t believe). Instead what we see here is an absolute non-message from them.<p>It&#x27;s like this Seinfeld episode with the shirt at the dry cleaners. We know they shrunk it, they know they shrunk it, so they should just come right out and admit &quot;we shrunk it&quot;!
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fennecfoxen超过 11 年前
CONSPIRACY THEORY TIME.<p>What if Mt. Gox didn&#x27;t really lose a post-Panamax boatload of Bitcoin (just a small amount)? They&#x27;re just manufacturing a panic so they can buy Bitcoins at fire-sale prices, declare &quot;We have all the BitCoin we need after all, we fixed our bug, everything&#x27;s fiiiine&quot; and maybe even turn a cash profit on the upside?<p>&lt;&#x2F;conspiracy theory, assumes a modicum of competence, etc&gt;
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danielweber超过 11 年前
This reminds me of corporate announcements that say &quot;for your convenience&quot; just before saying something incredibly inconvenient.<p>&quot;For your convenience, all your Bitcoins have been deleted.&quot;
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donquichotte超过 11 年前
The current message means absolutely nothing:<p>&quot;Dear MtGox Customers,<p>In the event of recent news reports and the potential repercussions on MtGox&#x27;s operations and the market, a decision was taken to close all transactions for the time being in order to protect the site and our users. We will be closely monitoring the situation and will react accordingly.<p>Best regards, MtGox Team&quot;
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EarthLaunch超过 11 年前
I think they might be manipulating the market. Here&#x27;s my translation:<p>&quot;Because people discovered that we lost or stole money, and that would destroy our operations, someone who doesn&#x27;t want to be responsible for making a decision decided that we could try causing a market crash by dramatically wiping our accounts, lowering the price enough that we could buy our way back to solvency. It didn&#x27;t entirely work, so we&#x27;re making this announcement, which is also meant to lower the price, or if that doesn&#x27;t work, allow us to segue back into operations. We will be monitoring the Bitcoin price and will react accordingly.&quot;
jorisw超过 11 年前
What are they doing in the page source there? Storing a message in a cookie then refreshing the page to display it?<p>The second time you visit the page, you&#x27;ll get your cookie-stored statement.<p>Almost seems like they want to be able to change their statement without previous visitors seeing the changes.
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malka超过 11 年前
I would not like to be in the shoes of mtgox CEO... He lost about 400M USD, some of them probably belonging to shady peoples (drug dealer, mobs, etc.)
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o_nate超过 11 年前
Best case speculation: they really are being acquired by a more competent exchange, or consortium of competent exchanges, who decided to step in to prevent further harm to Bitcoin&#x27;s reputation. Hence the hidden message in the html, the acquisition of the &quot;gox.com&quot; domain, and the suspending of all transactions until the official announcement.
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sneak超过 11 年前
When has the passive voice ever actually worked to calm a lynch mob?
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denzquix超过 11 年前
And it doesn&#x27;t seem to have been proofread very well. &quot;In the event of [something that has already happened]...&quot;? I don&#x27;t consider myself a particularly picky person, but come on, you could at least make the effort at a time like this.
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lettergram超过 11 年前
I don&#x27;t understand why people put their money&#x2F;BitCoins in MtGox, if you researched them (previous to this incident) you would find a large number of complaints and shady dealings.<p>Personally, I put my coins in BTC-e, Virtuex, and CoinBase (and thank god I did). Even though BTC-e and Virtuex seemed fairly sketchy they still allowed me to withdrawal my coins with no issue.
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amvp超过 11 年前
www.gox.com is now redirecting to mtgox.com.<p>For an organisation which is insolvent they must have invested a fairly significant sum on a 3 letter .com domain. This happened yesterday! What&#x27;s going on here?
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alexchamberlain超过 11 年前
So I have n bitcoins and $x in MtGox; will I get this back? Will there be a haircut? Is MtGox winding down? So many questions...
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650REDHAIR超过 11 年前
Are you kidding me?<p>This message is likely worse than staying silent.
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nhangen超过 11 年前
Is this a joke? What&#x27;s worse than a non-response? Lies. That&#x27;s what.
taybin超过 11 年前
That&#x27;s it??
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shawabawa3超过 11 年前
I guess this could be taken to mean &quot;the leak was a fake and unanticipated, we closed the markets to prevent even more panic selling&quot;<p>Maybe there is a faint glimmer of hope for gox... (I personally doubt it)
tjaerv大约 11 年前
<a href="http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-statement-claims-made-conscious-decision-halt-transactions/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.coindesk.com&#x2F;mt-gox-statement-claims-made-conscio...</a>
biot大约 11 年前
Sometimes it seems like Mt.Gox is a corporation in EVE Online. Like in EVE, they&#x27;re trading in virtual goods and there&#x27;s zero regulation. Similarly, scams are part of the game.
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negamax超过 11 年前
Seems like they concluded that panic selling is over and they can&#x27;t benefit from this anymore? Too bad many of their customers already sold at much lower prices.
fiatjaf大约 11 年前
If Bitcoin were a government currency, all Bitcoin users would have to pay for MtGox losses and every MtGox users would get their money back.<p>That&#x27;s the price of anarchism.
RankingMember大约 11 年前
So at this point, what exchange should someone who has, say, a ton of LTC, go to convert their holdings to Dogecoin?
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antonwinter超过 11 年前
Their way of protecting the site and the users is doing precisely the opposite
tibbon大约 11 年前
Well putting together that statement clearly took a lot of work...
gulbrandr超过 11 年前
&gt; <i>recent news reports</i><p>Of which recent news reports are they talking about?
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NigelTufnel大约 11 年前
This is insane. No &lt;!doctype&gt; declaration? Come on!
postscapes1大约 11 年前
They are just trolling everyone now...