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With Free Version of Windows, Microsoft Gives In to the Google Way

125 点作者 jorgecastillo大约 11 年前

24 条评论

kamaal大约 11 年前
Actually a free Windows OS would actually be great. Here in India, Pirated Windows OS are like as common as mosquitoes. No one but Microsoft was losing in all this. The price of Windows is generally prohibitively high and was by no way affordable to home and even small business users. The only option was to pirate them or use Ubuntu.<p>People walk in to buy a laptop, check the difference in price for Laptops with Windows OS and Laptops without them. Often the difference is in the range 7 to 8 thousand rupees. The obvious option is Pirate Windows OS or Ubuntu.<p>Instead of making it totally free. Microsoft can even charge a reasonable price and I can assure you people will pay it. The problem was never with Microsoft or Windows. The problem was always affordability.<p>If only Microsoft can make Windows affordable, they can kill all competitors instantly.
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skrebbel大约 11 年前
As a Microsoft customer, this alienates me from them. Paid software means that our interests are aligned: I want good software and Microsoft wants to make good software so that I buy it.<p>Free commercial software means that I&#x27;ll have to pay through other means, typically means that I&#x27;ll have less control over.
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hughdbrown大约 11 年前
&quot;Google offers free OSes to computer and phone makers as a way of driving the use of its search engine and countless other web services, and now, Microsoft is at least experimenting with the idea of doing much the same thing. According to the report, its free operating system is known as Windows 8.1 With Bing. As the name implies, the OS is meant to feed the use of Microsoft’s own search engine, as well as other Microsoft cloud services and software applications.&quot;<p>That&#x27;s not even the start of the problem with Microsoft OSes, from my perspective. I bought a Dell machine this month with great specs and Windows 8.1 on it. I Clonezilla&#x27;d the drives with Windows on them and paved over with Mint 16 because (1) it&#x27;s less painful to maintain and (2) I can script the installation of software I need to develop with. I&#x27;ve done battle with UEFI once and now I have a system I like.<p>So Microsoft OSes are too expensive even if they were free. And I used MS DOS and Windows for 20 years before moving to Linux. No, something huge would have to happen before I go back, and free is not enough.
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zdw大约 11 年前
And I&#x27;ll bet part of the license will say, &quot;Can&#x27;t be run in a virtual machine&quot;, to prevent people from using it in combination with VirtualBox to run Windows Apps for free.<p>Because I&#x27;d sure as heck do that and replace hundreds of licensing seats worth of RDP as well as old XP VM&#x27;s.
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tunap大约 11 年前
Free today, tomorrow it will be subscription based SaaS. What else do you expect from a former VP of MS&#x27;s Online Services Division?<p>edit: subscription, not prescription. yet.
lstamour大约 11 年前
Why does this article fixate on Google? For the clicks?<p>We all know that most of Windows won&#x27;t be free until they&#x27;ve a sure-fire way to make profits on top of that. And the answer lies in iOS and Mavericks more than Google. Give away the OS to build the ecosystem, sure Android also does that. But only Apple&#x27;s making money at it.<p>If it goes free, it&#x27;s going to look a lot more like iOS than Android -- a lot more like Xbox One, in fact, which also gets free updates. Sure, it might look like Office Starter edition, and be ad supported, but for productivity purposes, ads are the enemy and so that model has less chance at success.<p>Ultimately, Microsoft wants in on this &quot;free-to-play&quot; OS market, and when they do it, you can bet it will be in their interest, and it will exclude businesses and still offer premium add-on packs for home users. Let&#x27;s not go crazy, this is, after all, Microsoft.<p>When would they ever release just one SKU of anything?
rando289大约 11 年前
Windows for many years has given out hundreds of millions of copies for free by intentionally limiting the strength of their DRM and licensing enforcement. This makes perfect competitive sense.
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malbs大约 11 年前
The worst thing I found with Windows 8. Using any of the metro apps, there was embedded advertising inside of the apps. Upsetting to be advertised to inside of applications running on an O&#x2F;S that I paid money for.<p>It&#x27;s ok though, they fixed it, when I upgraded to Windows 8.1, the upgrade destroyed my ability to run metro style apps at all - I just got some arcane error message when I try to run&#x2F;launch anything metro related.<p>I went back to Windows 7.
antonius大约 11 年前
As the article mentions, Windows revenues have been important to Microsoft&#x27;s business for quite some time. It&#x27;s hard to imagine how positively shareholders would react to this type of business decision.
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zaidf大约 11 年前
I miss the Microsoft that was known for making solid products that could have a 5-10 year shelf life. It is sad that Office 2007 works better for me than Office 2010; Windows 7 better than Windows 8.
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belorn大约 11 年前
I really doubt this will have any effect on Microsoft revenues from computer retailers like dell, and windows starter editions has always pushed an IAP for an upgraded version.<p>The only market they loose is the customers who go to a local store to buy windows starter&#x2F;basic edition. I think that is a pretty small market, but feel free to correct me.
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blueskin_大约 11 年前
&gt;The google way<p>Closing popular services? Massive pervasive privacy invasion?<p>I wonder how crippled the free version of Windows will be. MS made an ultra cheap version of vista and 7, for example, that was so limited it was almost a joke.<p>If MS want to keep their market share up, they should just keep selling Windows 7 at a lower price, as that is what people really want. Real computers are never going to disappear because phones and tablets are read only devices for passive consumers and completely unusable for any real work, underpowered, and with tiny screens (sure, it&#x27;s nice to watch a movie on the train, but when you get home, you&#x27;re probably going to use either a computer or a TV instead).
teacup50大约 11 年前
If you want to see what the future of free operating systems looks like, watch free network TV.<p>This isn&#x27;t a good trend; who will be the HBO of operating systems?
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laumars大约 11 年前
This isn&#x27;t really as big news as it sounds as MS have often heavily subsidized Windows for OEMs abd such like when they&#x27;ve needed to compete in other markets (Eg when XP was initially losing out to Linux on nettops). And they&#x27;ve shown that they&#x27;re happy to run flagship consumer products at a loss just to raise adoption (Eg the original Xbox).<p>So it seems to me to be quite typical for then to drop the cost of a product like this when they&#x27;re struggling to push said product. And who can blame them, it&#x27;s a fairly standard practice outside of IT as well, and it&#x27;s not like MS don&#x27;t have the funds to do run at a loss for several years either (though I expect they&#x27;ll easily have this cost offset anyway)
cbhl大约 11 年前
My gut feeling is that this will be them porting Windows RT back onto x86_64, similar in a sense to Windows XP Starter Edition, with options to pay for a &quot;full&quot; license that can run Desktop (i.e. not Metro) apps.<p>I hope to be proven wrong.
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josephcooney大约 11 年前
Looks like google has succeeded in comoditizing their ccompliments, which their competitor (Microsoft) used to be able to make money off. If I were MS I&#x27;d be trying to figure out how to launch a free competitor to adwords.
sdegutis大约 11 年前
This seems like a clever move: make the OS free, to encourage developers and consumers to adopt it, and profit from the OS&#x27;s suddenly-flourishing ecosystem rather than the OS itself.
melling大约 11 年前
Hopefully, this solves the legacy browser problem. Otherwise, IE8 is going need to be supported for years.<p>Yes, some devs will be stuck because of their industries but many will be able to say IE11+.
Beltiras大约 11 年前
If this were Windows 7, it would actually be a gift worth receiving. Windows 8 is unusable. The lone machine on my local net is reviled and nobody wants to use it. It&#x27;s slated for an &quot;upgrade&quot; to Ubuntu 12.04.
Kurtz79大约 11 年前
As an MacOS&#x2F;Linux user (at home at least) I&#x27;ll say that this is a welcome decision from Microsoft and that, regardless of the reason for which it was taken, is one that benefits all the consumers.<p>Could we for once set aside our opinions on MS and agree on that ?
Paradigma11大约 11 年前
Let&#x27;s hope not. I want to be the customer and not the product.
rainmaking大约 11 年前
First IBM, now Google.<p>Microsoft really is the world&#x27;s greatest number two.
shmerl大约 11 年前
The fear of Linux took them at last.
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chris_wot大约 11 年前
Well this is ironic. Here is Bill Gates&#x27; letter to the Homebrew Club, dated February 3, 1976:<p>To me, the most critical thing in the hobby market right now is the lack of good software courses, books and software itself. Without good software and an owner who understands programming, a hobby computer is wasted. Will quality software be written for the hobby market?<p>Almost a year ago, Paul Allen and myself, expecting the hobby market to expand, hired Monte Davidoff and developed Altair BASIC. Though the initial work took only two months, the three of us have spent most of the last year documenting, improving and adding features to BASIC. Now we have 4K, 8K, EXTENDED, ROM and DISK BASIC. The value of the computer time we have used exceeds $40,000.<p>The feedback we have gotten from the hundreds of people who say they are using BASIC has all been positive. Two surprising things are apparent, however, 1) Most of these &quot;users&quot; never bought BASIC (less than 10% of all Altair owners have bought BASIC), and 2) The amount of royalties we have received from sales to hobbyists makes the time spent on Altair BASIC worth less than $2 an hour.<p>Why is this? As the majority of hobbyists must be aware, most of you steal your software. Hardware must be paid for, but software is something to share. Who cares if the people who worked on it get paid?<p>Is this fair? One thing you don&#x27;t do by stealing software is get back at MITS for some problem you may have had. MITS doesn&#x27;t make money selling software. The royalty paid to us, the manual, the tape and the overhead make it a break-even operation. One thing you do do is prevent good software from being written. Who can afford to do professional work for nothing? What hobbyist can put 3-man years into programming, finding all bugs, documenting his product and distribute for free? The fact is, no one besides us has invested a lot of money in hobby software. We have written 6800 BASIC, and are writing 8080 APL and 6800 APL, but there is very little incentive to make this software available to hobbyists. Most directly, the thing you do is theft.<p>What about the guys who re-sell Altair BASIC, aren&#x27;t they making money on hobby software? Yes, but those who have been reported to us may lose in the end. They are the ones who give hobbyists a bad name, and should be kicked out of any club meeting they show up at.<p>I would appreciate letters from any one who wants to pay up, or has a suggestion or comment. Just write me at 1180 Alvarado SE, #114, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 87108. Nothing would please me more than being able to hire ten programmers and deluge the hobby market with good software.<p>Bill Gates<p>General Partner, Micro-Soft<p>---<p>48 years later, it turns out that the following response highlighted the answer:<p><a href="http://www.digibarn.com/collections/newsletters/homebrew/V2_02/homebrew_V2_02_p2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.digibarn.com&#x2F;collections&#x2F;newsletters&#x2F;homebrew&#x2F;V2_...</a>