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Ask HN: Do we need another email service?

9 点作者 udaycoder大约 11 年前
I got a chance to work with email recently and thinking of starting an email service, but wondering do we need one now? if it is paid, what makes you pay for it?

18 条评论

jimmytidey大约 11 年前
The missing email feature I&#x27;m interested in is analytics - I couldn&#x27;t find anything the last time I looked.<p>Who takes up most of my time, as measured by the number of words I&#x27;ve written to them? Who is worst at responding to me? Can you do anything with sentiment analysis?
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a3n大约 11 年前
Yes, we need another paid email service. Competition is good.<p>Besides the obvious gmail, I think your fundamental competitor in the not-gmail space is fastmail.fm or something like it. If you think you can make a go of it at those prices, plus or minus an order of magnitude, then have at it.<p>Mail is not for the faint of heart. Besides the technical details (which are harder than most people assume), you have to operate in a way that you earn and keep the trust of your customers. You have to not lose mail, you have to stay up.<p>You have to accept that you&#x27;ll be an unwilling partner to the NSA and other law enforcement. You&#x27;ll also be a target of under the table surveillance by the NSA and other spies and criminals.<p>You have to get email fundamentally, rock solidly right. Above that there&#x27;s lots of room for features and services more or less related to email.<p>You&#x27;re going to have to work hard to peel me away from fastmail, and you&#x27;ll have to work even harder to peel everyone else away from gmail, or even to get them to notice you.<p>I look forward to your Show HN (truly).
Ihmahr大约 11 年前
Yes, we do. I would pay for it if it is not ridiculously expensive (mykolab) and has decent privacy AND encryption. Servers in america == bad.<p>That icelandic one from recently (forgot the name) I can not take too seriously, since they want to roll their own browser that will basically be a bad version of Tor browser and also some other stuff they want to build their selves.
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dd3141大约 11 年前
I&#x27;d be open to a new open service, if and only if it really went above and beyond our current expectations of email providers today. I think gmail(what I currently use) is great and I&#x27;m satisfied with it but it doesn&#x27;t mean that I wouldn&#x27;t switch if something could out-do it in certain arenas. I think the obvious factors of security,privacy and UI&#x2F;UX would be the things that would really have to shine for me to open my wallet. I&#x27;m not sure but I think that the market has some pretty decent offerings and people might not be on the lookout for a new email service but to make an example; I wasn&#x27;t looking for a new text editor when I came across Sublime. Sometimes thing are so great that they are just worth trying. It would be a large undertaking on your part but who knows how it could turn out? Good luck.
blueskin_大约 11 年前
If it can differentiate itself by being private and secure, sure. That means non-US hosting, zero knowledge storage, PFS on all SSL&#x2F;TLS, properly defined security policies from a company side to reduce social engineering, secure architecture, etc.<p>Many people on HN probably either host their own email or considered it, but a good secure service is better to sell to people without that technical knowledge who don&#x27;t want to be a Google&#x2F;MS&#x2F;Apple&#x2F;Yahoo&#x2F;etc product. I&#x27;ve pointed less technical people towards MyKolab before; they are a good model for how an email service should be done.
cliveowen大约 11 年前
I don&#x27;t think we need another email service. The backend stuff tends to be very complex and it would be a waste of time to reinvent the wheel. I do think there&#x27; s a lot of potential for improving the user experience on the client side, finding new ways to simplify and augment the current offering. Too bad the main player in this space (Gmail) doesn&#x27;t offer the kind of API access needed for a deep integration, maybe in the future.
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BWStearns大约 11 年前
I might pay a buck a year for an email service that didn&#x27;t serve ads, had a gmail-level quality and had solid privacy&#x2F;security baked in. That said I tend to steer clear of the lavabit-esque providers who go out of their way to advertise their over-my-dead-body stance on handing over emails because it makes them a target and tends to make people associate you with paranoids (even if they are after you :)
tim333大约 11 年前
I&#x27;d like a service that unifies my email with messages on other services I use eg facebook, Whatsapp, Linkedin, SMS etc so if I&#x27;ve been chatting about say going to Vietnam I can search for that in all sources. Maybe even posts on HN. Basically anything I write that people reply to.
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klimatika大约 11 年前
Few years ago, there was email service called Zenbe. It was cool and ahead of time and I&#x27;ve seen it as only real competitor to gmail. But for some reason they got out of business (I don&#x27;t remember why). Search for Zenbe and maybe you will find some clues.
Thiz大约 11 年前
Yes, it&#x27;s all about branding. Most legible names are taken in all big players, so a new service would see an influx of users trying to secure their vanity names.<p>And that, my friend, will occur for as long as a million human beings are born each day.
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brunooo大约 11 年前
We tested demand late last year and relative numbers didn&#x27;t look too convincing.<p><a href="https://www.minervafabric.com/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.minervafabric.com&#x2F;</a><p>Feel free to ping me for more insight or specific data.
uberspot大约 11 年前
It would be cool if besides privacy for users you contributed&#x2F;used already existing open source mail related software. You know, follow the model of those companies that are based on and expand oss.
NKCSS大约 11 年前
Paying for Google to host the e-mail for all companies; ran private exchange before; it&#x27;s just not worth it :)<p>Imho, it&#x27;s extremely hard to beat what Google offers.
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pera大约 11 年前
Location is an essential issue today for e-mail services: don&#x27;t expected much enthusiasm if your servers are in USA
bmaeser大约 11 年前
yes we need another mailprovider, with all the killerfeatures of gmail:<p>lots of storage &#x2F; archive<p>contacts &#x2F; sync<p>kalender &#x2F; sync<p>decent privacy&#x2F; encryption<p>servers in EU<p>i dont care about webmail&#x2F;mailclient.
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gregmorton大约 11 年前
I&#x27;ll die for an emailbox where I could rearrange my mails on the fly.
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hobbes300大约 11 年前
IF and only IF the spam filters are as good as Gmail.
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austinstorm大约 11 年前
Any innovation in email is welcome by me.