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Ask HN: How effective have the job posts on HN been?

110 点作者 rrpadhy大约 11 年前
I do come across job posts on the home of HN. Job postings by Y Combinator alumni, which are guaranteed to appear on the front page for a period of time.<p>How effective has been these posts? Anyone here who has out the job post and can share some numbers? Anyone who has applied to these job posts? Others, what do you do&#x2F;think when you see a job post?<p>We are working on a startup idea, and this question carries some value in validating our concept. However, it is not related to job openings. Our validation is primarily to understand user behavior.

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jonnathanson大约 11 年前
I owe my writing career to HN.<p>I have been writing my whole life (I probably put in my 10,000 hours before I left high school). But until recently, I&#x27;d never really considered it as a serious job option. Journalism rarely pays a living wage. Trying to sell book proposals is like trying to make a career out of buying lottery tickets. Unless you are confident you&#x27;re the next J.K. Rowling [1], you should leave writing where it belongs: on nights and weekends, as a hobby. Or so I&#x27;d always imagined. And so I spent the last decade of my life resisting the call to foolishness and misadventure.<p>I&#x27;ve been lurking, arguing, and mucking about on HN for the last few years. I took awhile to realize that HN had become my primary outlet for writing. Once I figured it out, I committed more time to lurking here.<p>I responded to my first HN jobs post in mid-2013, for a writing job with Priceonomics (YC &#x27;12). They responded rapidly (same day, if memory serves), and I got to work right away. I have done some very fun, very interesting work with those guys. (And I hope to continue; in fact, I owe them beers when I get back into town!). That work went really well. In the span of three or four months, I landed an agent, a book deal, some NPR appearances, and some columns in national publications. I have yet to make Harry Potter money, let alone my previous salary. But in the meantime, I&#x27;m paying rent in San Francisco, doing something that doesn&#x27;t feel like work to me. That&#x27;s pretty cool.<p>Lately I&#x27;ve picked up a lot of freelance content marketing and writing jobs through HN Freelancer threads. I get a good response rate, and the people I work with have been awesome. I hope to keep landing these gigs every month or two.<p>And at some point, I&#x27;ll get around to writing that book.<p>I apologize if this post seems glib, humblebraggy, or even non-humble in its bragginess. That&#x27;s not my intent. I just saw this topic and felt an overwhelming need to share my story here. My path is atypical and ill-advised. Especially if you like making money. But I know of no other path by which I could have reshaped my destiny so quickly.<p>[1] Or Robert Galbraith, or whoever.
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pg大约 11 年前
I don&#x27;t know specific numbers, but the companies we&#x27;ve funded say they get good people from them.
8_hours_ago大约 11 年前
From the viewpoint of a job applicant, I have been very happy with the job postings on HN. Of the 4 jobs that I applied to over the past 3.5 years (I&#x27;m pretty selective), all 4 responded to me on the same day, and 3 resulted in phone interviews. Those numbers are very good compared to other job posting sites.<p>I found that job aggregation sites like Monster performed absolutely terribly. In that same category are the careers website that large companies like Microsoft and Boeing have, which are basically black holes. I can&#x27;t remember ever getting a response from any of them. It&#x27;s easy to spam your resume to dozens of jobs at once, but 0&#x2F;1000 is still 0.<p>My favorite technique (which got me my current job) was to apply to the company directly after finding the job opening through Craigslist or other means. Applying directly got me a response rate of 14&#x2F;17, and an interview rate of 10&#x2F;14.<p>Emailing companies directly through Craigslist was fairly poor for me, and gave me a response rate of 2&#x2F;8, and an interview rate of 1&#x2F;2.<p>I realize that my sample size is small, but I hope it helps.
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akg_67大约 11 年前
My experience as job applicant:<p>Who is hiring, March 2014: I received three responses to my applications. One for code samples (no follow up afterward), one for quick phone conversation, and one for phone interview (Ed: three different companies).<p>Seeking Freelance, March 2014: No response.<p>Who is hiring, Feb 2014: No response.<p>Seeking Freelance, Feb 2014: No response.<p>YC Companies &#x2F;jobs: No ACK or response in last two months.
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pbiggar大约 11 年前
We get great applicants (<a href="https://circleci.com/jobs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;circleci.com&#x2F;jobs</a>), and have hired over half the company this way (maybe 6 or 7 people).<p>However, we have a lot that appeals to the HN crowd: a flat organization, CircleCI is written in Clojure, the company is half remote, we make tools for developers and we&#x27;re committed to private offices per dev for SF hires.<p>So your mileage will definitely vary.
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tptacek大约 11 年前
Until a year or so ago, they were our #1 most effective recruitment vehicle. (We got better at hiring; HN didn&#x27;t get worse.)
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minimaxir大约 11 年前
Note that there are two types of job posts on HN:<p>1) Who is Hiring threads, which are posted on the first of every month<p>2) Job postings by Y Combinator alumni, which are guaranteed to appear on the front page for a period of time.
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zbruhnke大约 11 年前
We&#x27;ve posted two and received a total of about 50 applications.<p>of those 50 I&#x27;d say 65-75% of them are high quality candidates at least at first glance that are writing emails specifically about the postings we put up and referencing the things we say in the post vs just spamming everyone in the list with a generic cover letter and resume.<p>So far HN is the best source of high quality candidates for us as a startup working on hard technical challenges.
arasmussen大约 11 年前
I regularly (twice a month?) check <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/jobs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;jobs</a> just to see what&#x27;s out there. I&#x27;m not even looking for a job, just more interested in what startups are doing and what kind of employees they&#x27;re looking for.
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sergiotapia大约 11 年前
Applied to 4 front end positions with a dash of Rails work, 2 of them had uninteresting work so I declined, 1 wanted me to jump through hoops answering some silly puzzles - &quot;Lol no... I&#x27;m not 21 anymore, you want to hire me look at my credentials and open source code&quot;.<p>The last one was a great fit and I&#x27;m loving the work we&#x27;re doing.<p>If you guys want to hire good people who actually respect themselves and will present your business well inside and outside, don&#x27;t make candidates jump through your silly college-level puzzles. I&#x27;m too old for this shit.
paulmay大约 11 年前
We posted on HN in November and it was very effective (<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6653752" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=6653752</a>). The volume of candidates that came from the HN post was much smaller than other channels, but the quality of candidates was much higher than all the other channels.<p>Here are the numbers we saw:<p>HN - 12 candidates total, 7 made it to the initial phone interview and 3 made it to a full interview....we made one offer and he accepted (and he&#x27;s awesome).<p>Stackoverflow - 28 candidates, 9 initial phone interviews, 2 full interviews, no offers.<p>Indeed - 40 candidates, 6 phone interviews, none of them made it to a full interview.<p>Craigslist - 6 candidates, 2 phone interviews, neither of them made it to a full interview.<p>Two other thoughts...<p>I think the reason that HN worked so well for us is that we we took a very targeted approach...before posting, we spent a lot of time thinking through exactly what we were looking for and what we thought made working at BuzzStream a unique opportunity for the right person. We wrote a positioning statement for the job that we used as the starting point for our post. Getting the message right was critical.<p>The fact that we don&#x27;t mind bringing on remote people makes things a lot easier.
sheetjs大约 11 年前
If you go through the whoishiring posts, you&#x27;ll see some people actually do give numbers. For example, scribd:<p>&gt; We&#x27;ve hired SIX full-time people and TONS of interns from these &quot;Who is Hiring&quot; threads ... it really works!<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7326306" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7326306</a>
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msutherl大约 11 年前
I got a great job through the the Who&#x27;s Hiring thread. The company that hired me said the signal:noise ratio from HN was about 50:50, much higher than any other method.
kamens大约 11 年前
Multiple hires for Khan Academy. One of our best recruiting networks.
steven777400大约 11 年前
I once applied to a job post in the one of the monthly &quot;Who&#x27;s Hiring&quot; threads. I got a callback and we discussed the my experience, the company, and the position.<p>They were interested in conducting a further interview, but, based on the what I learned in the phone conversation, I decided we wouldn&#x27;t be a good fit together and so declined to move forward.<p>I do enjoy reading the threads each month to see what the industry is up to from a hiring perspective.
fsk大约 11 年前
Just one data point:<p>I replied to every NYC posting one month. I got zero on-site interviews. (I do get interviews when I send resumes via other methods.)<p>I&#x27;m not wasting time responding again.
kiyoto大约 11 年前
We hired our frontend engineer, and he&#x27;s been nothing short of awesome.<p>To put this in context:<p>We are an enterprise SaaS company (www.treasuredata.com). In other words, this is not something a lot of frontend folks are aware of let alone interested in by default. Still, we managed to find someone who was really good. He and another frontend engineer made a worlds of difference in our webapp and boosted customer engagement.
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BorisMelnik大约 11 年前
Great but terrible. Lots of initial contact with people I am offering them jobs with WordPress development and rails but very little followup.
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croisillon大约 11 年前
1. I don&#x27;t work in a technical domain<p>2. I don&#x27;t look at job offers on HN<p>3. I never applied to job offers on HN<p>I hope this gives you a great insight!
hgh大约 11 年前
Got a few interesting nibbles after posting on the who&#x27;s hiring posts, but specific hiring submission didn&#x27;t get far. We&#x27;re based in Cape Town, so perhaps reader geography plays some part.<p>If you&#x27;re in our part of the world, have skills in frontend development, java, or python, and you want to work at a fast growing mobile payments company, send me a mail (email on profile)
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lbotos大约 11 年前
As an applicant <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/jobs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;jobs</a> was always a fun way to read the pulse of the YC crowd. I saw something interesting, I applied, and now I&#x27;ll be starting my new position in a few weeks! In a word; useful. :)
yesimahuman大约 11 年前
I&#x27;d be curious to hear about how effective the ones that end up on the weekends are. I can imagine they are quite a bit less effective, but I could be wrong. Seems like it would be worth just delaying those to the next Monday, but that isn&#x27;t exactly a new opinion.
nathan_f77大约 11 年前
Myself and 2 other ZenPayroll engineers found and applied to ZenPayroll through the job posts on HN.
DevoAKA大约 11 年前
I didn&#x27;t find my current job directly through the monthly job post but, over a year ago, I found a link to AngelList and then from there I was able to find my full-time job, junior and all.
chrisconley大约 11 年前
I got my current gig at Monetate in December 2013 after seeing a post on Who&#x27;s Hiring November 2013.<p>It turns out we&#x27;ve hired 7 our ~20 software engineers like this over the last few years.
kclay大约 11 年前
Seeking freelancer has netted me a 3 to 1 rate for new clients on average every time I&#x27;ve posted. Far better then posting on elance or similar sites.
d0m大约 11 年前
High quality candidates and also great discussions even with people we end up not hiring (Some we forwarded to other startups we knew were looking).
vikas5678大约 11 年前
I&#x27;ve posted many UI programmer job openings I have in my team, never even received a resume. Good programmers are hard to find.
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bliti大约 11 年前
I was hired from a regular HN post. But know of people hired through the job posts themselves. It works well.
laurenstill大约 11 年前
My current job I got through HN, in addition to a number of interviews. Not a YC Co though.
guiporto大约 11 年前
I think this post should be a poll instead of just an &#x27;open question&#x27;.
rco8786大约 11 年前
Got my current job on here