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Monsanto Owns Us: The Monopoly of Seeds and Intellectual Property Rights

126 点作者 mgunes大约 11 年前

15 条评论

Blahah大约 11 年前
Just to be clear: if you don&#x27;t like this situation, patent law is the target. Monsanto, like many other companies, are operating within the legal framework the USA provides them. Reduce patent terms and you&#x27;ll diversify control of the food supply.<p>Second, just to pre-empt, please don&#x27;t confuse Monsanto with GM crops. Monsanto are a real pain in my ass as a plant scientist because they&#x27;re nucleating an all-out war on rationality. The original Monsanto, a chemical manufacturer, were hated because of their US government contracts for Agent Orange, and their massive environmental abuses in the 1950s. In the 90s they developed some nice genetic technology. In 2000 that company was bought out by Pharmacia. Then, in possibly the biggest PR fuckup ever, a newly formed company taking only the agricultural IP from the old Monsanto decided to <i>keep the name</i>. The name carries so many associations with the evil things they did in the 50s-70s that it has utterly polluted the public discourse on GM crops.<p>It&#x27;s also very tiresome to have Percy Schmeiser trotted out over and over again. What&#x27;s not mentioned here is that it came out in the trial that Schmeiser had very deliberately infringed the patent by using Roundup to select the Roundup-Ready plants, saving their seed and planting them separately. Schmeiser made a very good job of rousing the media in his support, but he definitively broke the law.
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forrestthewoods大约 11 年前
I think the hate for Monsanto is way, way, way overrated. Honestly I still haven&#x27;t read a super compelling reason to hate them.<p>All the talk about evil lawsuits against poor farmers who got accidentally contaminated seems to be FUD. The big recent case was a guy deliberately trying to skirt the rules.<p>If farmers would like to use non-Monsanto seeds then they are free to do so. If they&#x27;d like to use (arguably) superior seeds that have to be re-purchased every year then they are also free to do so.<p>If people think it&#x27;s bullshit that Monsanto can prevent their seeds from being re-used then that&#x27;s not insane, but I&#x27;d politely disagree. It&#x27;s not terribly different from copyright protection on software. The way I see it is we could revoke that protection and then the seeds wouldn&#x27;t be developed because it wouldn&#x27;t be profitable and we&#x27;d be stuck with the old stuff. Or we could give protection to enable the development of new seeds and then farmers have the choice to use the old stuff or new stuff. And if the new stuff is so much better than the old stuff that using the old stuff isn&#x27;t financially feasible then I&#x27;d be inclined to call that a success.<p>Maybe someone can convince me to grab my pitchfork and join the mob but so far I&#x27;m just not seeing it.
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ingenieros大约 11 年前
In Colombia they have been lobbying hard for the past 20 years or so and they are starting to see the genetically modified fruit of their labor. (pun intended) It all started in the mid 90&#x27;s with a huge contract to supply: glifosato aka Roundup® to spray large coca fields throughout the country. The outcome of this experiment has been a new super strain of Roundup resistant coca crop known as &quot;Boliviana negra.&quot; A toxicologist, Camilo Uribe, who studied the coca, said: &quot;The quality and percentage of hydrochloride from each leaf is much better, between 97 and 98 per cent. A normal plant does not get more than 25 per cent, meaning that more drugs and of a higher purity can be extracted.&quot;<p>In addition to this Colombia recently signed a free trade agreement with the U.S that introduced a law known as:&quot;Ley 9.70&quot; This law basically forces farmers to only grow food crops from semilla certificada (patented seeds) and guess which companies are supplying these patented seeds? Monsanto, Dupont and Syngenta. This is causing great financial hardship among campesinos as they can&#x27;t afford to buy seeds every growing season and this has already resulted in peasant protests late last year which resulted in over 40 civilian casualties. As if farmers didn&#x27;t have it bad enough being stuck in the middle of an armed conflict they now need to comply with this new law or disappear.<p>If you were genuinely interested in this subject you could do a little independent research of your own and you would see that Colombia is not an isolated incident by any means. Monsanto has been taking advantage of corrupt elected officials all over the developing world to maximize their profits.
wdr1大约 11 年前
Why is it becoming so fashionable in the US for both political parties to reject science? The Right rejects evolution &amp; climate change, etc. and the Left rejects GMOs, nuclear power, vaccinations, etc.<p>It&#x27;s <i></i>infuriating<i></i>.<p>I wish the nutballs on both sides would just leave the rest of us alone.
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jrkelly大约 11 年前
I&#x27;m definitely getting here too late, but this is the series to read to get informed on GMOs. &quot;Panic Free GMOs&quot; by Grist Magazine, very balanced take: <a href="http://grist.org/series/panic-free-gmos/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;grist.org&#x2F;series&#x2F;panic-free-gmos&#x2F;</a>
rjzzleep大约 11 年前
a very important thing that we&#x27;re overlooking here, where monsanto is kind of a side effect. is that we&#x27;re losing our seeds. we&#x27;re losing for example seeds that are have had hundreds of years of adapting to a certain environment.<p>a friend of mine was actually collecting seeds in afghanistan a couple of years back precisely, because of that.<p>besides the yield implications there are also health implications, as we&#x27;re increasingly growing seeds with a certain taste.<p>this is completely disregarding the possible health implications of gmo crops.<p>imho there&#x27;s huge potential for startups, but probably als huge attack surfaces on those startups.<p>why? don&#x27;t forget that uncle bens for example tried to patent basmati rice, and it took the indian government to shut them down. there have also been countless other such cases.<p>and for those saying the whole monsanto thing is overrated? i remember the guy mentioning a couple of years back that he wants to own 100% of the crop market by 20xx(xx being a number that i forgot). that number has been growing rapidly. and again disregarding the health implications of generic seeds distributed throughout the world, we kinda recognize that monopolies in everything are dangerous.<p>what on earth makes us think that this is any different?
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shasts大约 11 年前
I think the name &#x27;Monsanto&#x27; doesn&#x27;t matter too much. It can be any evil corporation using all their muscles to lobby, and make legal frameworks in favor of them. For those who are not sure why Monsanto is evil, read this article.<p><a href="http://newsjunkiepost.com/2009/08/05/monsanto-dow-making-headlines-for-their-atrocities/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;newsjunkiepost.com&#x2F;2009&#x2F;08&#x2F;05&#x2F;monsanto-dow-making-hea...</a>
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spikels大约 11 年前
Funny how when certain words come up seemingly rational people go batshit crazy. Monsanto is one of those words.
PythonicAlpha大约 11 年前
One reason is because our democratic freedom is at the verge of being overthrown by a new aristocratic system that springs out of the &quot;free market&quot; system we have today.<p>Such companies already have a tremendous influence on politics and the whole live we have. The financial system is roaming the lands for new &quot;investments&quot;. There is not to few money around, it is way to much -- and it is in the hands of the few.<p>The result is, that companies, the finance sector and the big shareholders own us all! We are at the verge of a state, where it will not be possible to live without paying &quot;life-taxes&quot; to specific companies. So the difference of the Having (and I don&#x27;t mean a million bucks or even a billion bucks -- far more!) and the Not-Having will grow. There might be some kind of new middle-class formed by the millionaires of today -- but the old middle-class will go down.<p>At last, there will be the new aristocrats (as in the middle ages -- max. 0.01% of the people), their handymen (~ 1%) and the rest of the pack, that will be living in rags.<p>I don&#x27;t know, if this will come to pass, but we are at the verge of it and the neo-capitalism is going exactly that direction! Already some aristocrats are building homes for the millionaires -- secure and apart of the pack!<p>When you say: This is just bullshit: Look into your countries government -- who makes the laws? In the US, in the EU, in .... (where you live). Open your eyes! (if you are able to)
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marcoagner大约 11 年前
The problem here is the power they are given by patent law and other government powers that they can &#x27;lobby&#x27; for. This is it. That&#x27;s not capitalism or free market... That&#x27;s bullshit.
msh大约 11 年前
This reminds me of the windup girl by Paolo Bacigalupi (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Windup_Girl" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Windup_Girl</a>).
scotty79大约 11 年前
We should have GPLed all DNA before we allowed comapnies to own IP on DNA.
Eleutheria大约 11 年前
They own nothing and nobody, once the world stops believing in patents.<p>Only thru force and coercion they have a temporary advantage.
joesmo大约 11 年前
It&#x27;s disgusting that the courts--especially the Supreme Court --in this country constantly choose to side against the interests of the people it claims to serve, against all reason. Over and over again in the last sixty years, from civil rights to patent law to copyright law, decisions have been inexplicably targeted at making life worse in exchange for corporate and political profit. I don&#x27;t blame corporations like Monsanto as much, since they are expected to act towards their monetary and financial interests. Yet the interpretation of law consistently fails even the most rudimentary test of logic. If I didn&#x27;t know any better (and I don&#x27;t), I&#x27;d say the court&#x27;s justices are gaining either financially or otherwise from the parties the rule for.
nashashmi大约 11 年前
Anybody who modifies crops at the genetic level just so it can withstand the effects of their own plant and pest killer is evil.<p>The correct thing would be to do is create a chemical that kills all unwanted stuff and leaves the wanted stuff unharmed, not modify nature because it does not fit your world order.<p>Plus, GM foods for any purpose are evil. Correct procedure for getting enhanced plants is to use normal breeding processes.
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