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Gravity waves from Big Bang detected

892 点作者 tjaerv大约 11 年前

25 条评论

Tarrosion大约 11 年前
As an outsider (PhD student in a quantitative field, no relation to physics), the experimental physics community really strikes me as a class act. High standards for statistical significance, vigorously working to rule out mundane explanations before publishing data, outlining which statistical tests will be performed <i>before</i> data is collected...I&#x27;m a fan.<p>&quot;In fact, the researchers were so startled to see such a blaring signal in the data that they held off on publishing it for more than a year, looking for all possible alternative explanations for the pattern they found.&quot; That&#x27;s pretty amazing; as far as I can tell, such caution is less typical in e.g. the brain sciences.
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DangerousPie大约 11 年前
They made a nice video of the researcher surprising Prof Linde with the news: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZlfIVEy_YOA</a><p>The reaction of the couple is great!
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swatkat大约 11 年前
Guardian has a nice and simple article explaining gravity, gravitational wave, and about this detection:<p><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/17/gravitational-waves-bicep-inflation-big-bang" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;2014&#x2F;mar&#x2F;17&#x2F;gravitational...</a>
wozniacki大约 11 年前
Here&#x27;s an excellent explanation on cosmic inflation from Sean Carroll:<p><a href="http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2014/03/16/gravitational-waves-in-the-cosmic-microwave-background/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.preposterousuniverse.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2014&#x2F;03&#x2F;16&#x2F;gravitat...</a>
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slacka大约 11 年前
So just to clarify, this is only the measurement of an artifact most likely caused by gravity waves during the period of inflation. We still have not directly measured gravity waves in our current universe, right? I think the fact that gravity can&#x27;t be measured is a subtle clue about one piece of the puzzle for a unifying theory of everything.
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sanxiyn大约 11 年前
From the horse&#x27;s mouth: <a href="http://bicepkeck.org/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bicepkeck.org&#x2F;</a>
sixothree大约 11 年前
Nothing bugs me more than when a supposedly scientific magazine uses thumbnails of important images without actually linking to the full size. I just wanted to see the black lines in the image the article refers to.
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yukichan大约 11 年前
&gt; The finding is direct proof of the theory of inflation, the idea that the universe expanded extremely quickly in the first fraction of a second after it was born.<p>Small nitpick, but wouldn&#x27;t the use of the words &quot;evidence for&quot; instead of &quot;proof of&quot; have been better? Not that I am in any way trying to take anything away from the discovery. Just from a science perspective, the word &quot;proof&quot; has always bugged me.
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piratebroadcast大约 11 年前
I&#x27;m very curious of how, if we now presume this to be true, if and how that may effect the &quot;Are we living in a simulation?&quot; question.
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sosuke大约 11 年前
Is gravity a wave then, like light? I thought the jury was still out on that.
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AnimalMuppet大约 11 年前
&gt; This pattern, basically a curling in the polarization, or orientation, of the light, can be created only by gravitational waves produced by inflation.<p>I call BS. &quot;Within our current theories, this pattern can be created only by...&quot; would be a more accurate statement. The arrogance that &quot;with this theory, we understand it all&quot; has been shot down over and over in the history of science.<p>[Edit: tarrosion noted the caution of experimenters in making sure that the data could not be caused by something else. This is appropriate, and it&#x27;s good that they have it. You now have one, and only one, theoretical explanation for the data. But the statement in the article that I quoted is still a step too far. It presumes that our existing theories are the only possible ones.]
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encoderer大约 11 年前
Reminds me of the way Einstein, not being an experimental physicist himself, would conclude his famous papers with suggestions for experiments to confirm them. Awesome for this research team to have the opportunity to confirm this discovery in Linde&#x27;s lifetime.
estebanrules大约 11 年前
How would you folks rate the significance of this, let&#x27;s say as far as scientific discoveries &#x2F; realizations go in the last 100 years? Yes, of course this is completely subjective. I would say in the top three.
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Hypx大约 11 年前
A little bit of caution from here: <a href="http://profmattstrassler.com/2014/03/17/bicep2-new-evidence-of-cosmic-inflation/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;profmattstrassler.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;03&#x2F;17&#x2F;bicep2-new-evidence-...</a><p>Very interesting result, potentially game-changing, but it also could be nothing too. Wait for more experiments before we can say for sure.
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yeukhon大约 11 年前
Is this the same as graviton in string theory? Or could this be used to further justify the existence of graviton?
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cellover大约 11 年前
This page allowed me to have an idea of the concepts underlying this discovery (CMB light, B-mode polarization): <a href="http://cosmology.berkeley.edu/~yuki/CMBpol/CMBpol.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cosmology.berkeley.edu&#x2F;~yuki&#x2F;CMBpol&#x2F;CMBpol.htm</a>
platz大约 11 年前
Interesting that they succeeded in detecting gravity waves where LIGO failed?
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snickell大约 11 年前
Is there a way from this data to calculate the frequency of the wave(s)? Bandwidth? Or otherwise characterize the signal that is causing the polarization? Is that even a meaningful question in this case?
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watson大约 11 年前
Another HN post from earlier today about the same discovery: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7411341" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7411341</a>
philip1209大约 11 年前
They have evidence of gravity waves, but cannot prove causation (i.e. big bang), right?
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OOvsuOO大约 11 年前
Wow.. that&#x27;s sweet but really come on only supporting mavericks OS. And already.. if you have a iPad the notes app automatically synchronizes with the mail server (I use web based email service mostly.) I didn&#x27;t even set it up or should I say allow the iPad to do so.
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3327大约 11 年前
Just 5 sigma confidence...
namelezz大约 11 年前
Congratulation!
kimonos大约 11 年前
Interesting info! Thanks for sharing!
notastartup大约 11 年前
can someone explain the significance of this, for those that are not familiar with this area?