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Why does anyone still use Eclipse?

22 点作者 Zisko大约 11 年前
Why does anyone still use eclipse? It's the most tedious, slow, unusable piece of software that makes java a pain to use.

18 条评论

lutusp大约 11 年前
In a word, Android. Google pretty much requires one to use Eclipse in order to develop Android software. Obviously one can struggle to get around this assumption, but the adjustments required take more effort than using Eclipse, granted its many limitations.
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mindcrime大约 11 年前
Because it &quot;just works&quot; and no other platform has yet convinced me that it is sufficiently better to justify the investment of time and energy which would be required to switch.<p>Take Netbeans - I&#x27;ve tried it, and it&#x27;s nice enough. But it never wowed me as being so much better that I could justify throwing away all the accumulated knowledge and experience of dealing with Eclipse that I&#x27;ve built up over the years.<p>IntelliJ? For years was purely a closed-source, proprietary program which completely ruled it out from the get-to. Now, they have some kinda open-source&#x27;ish &quot;community edition&quot; or something, but I still think of their outfit as being largely a vendor of proprietary crap, which diminishes my interest in investing time there.<p>And outside of Eclipse, Netbeans, and IntelliJ, what is there in the Java world?<p>Sure, Eclipse has its flaws, and performance has always been one, but, for my purposes anyway, it remains &quot;good enough&quot;.
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joeevans大约 11 年前
If you&#x27;re a polyglot&#x2F;polyplatform developer then eclipse based IDE&#x27;s are awesome. You can drop an eclipse into a directory, untar it, and run it... and toss it away later if you want. Titanium Studio, SpringSource Tool Suite, and, of course, basic Eclipse are all versions of Eclipse. I don&#x27;t pay a cent, and can make my way through several projects with the same IDE skill set as they all use variations of the same commands. I don&#x27;t have to deal with annoying and expensive licensing issues. The IDE is free, and the plugins I choose are also usually free. By free, I mean free in all senses. If I want to get someone going on my project, they can download an Eclipse based IDE and get rolling without paying a cent. As a final bonus, most tutorials reference Eclipsed based IDE&#x27;s... not a paid IDE.
jitendrac大约 11 年前
I am an android developer with low-end hardware(2gb ram and core 2 due cpu). I can do every work in eclipse with ease.<p>But when i tried IntelliJ-based android studio, it pretty much stucked in every five minutes and even crashed a lot. after struggling for 2-3 weeks i went back to eclipse.<p>and it still works great.
dragonbonheur大约 11 年前
Eclipse works fine on my Acer Aspire Netbook. I agree it could be better but it&#x27;s essentially a very capable and adaptable piece of software that&#x27;s available for free.
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watwut大约 11 年前
Neither idea nor netbeans seem to have killer feature that would motivating me to move. I know eclipse too well, I am used some its plugins and I can write my own plugins and use some of those.<p>Netbeans was too slow last time I tried and Eclipse is not unstable for me.<p>If I would work with android, I would switch to IntelliJ. I heard that one is better and Android plugin for Eclipse is horrible.
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kjs3大约 11 年前
Why do you care? Seriously. This sort of question has all the intellectual gravitas of the vi v. emacs wars.
boobsbr大约 11 年前
It works fine for me. So does Netbeans. Haven&#x27;t tried IntellyJ, but it will probably work fine too.
theandrewbailey大约 11 年前
The ecommerce platform I work with, Demandware, makes its Eclipse plugin a critical part of the workflow. I don&#x27;t really mind, seeing as how I&#x27;ve used Eclipse (or variants thereof) just about every day of my career.<p>If I write some Java on my own, I go Netbeans.
courtf大约 11 年前
I&#x27;ve been using the community edition of IntelliJ for years now, primarily for Android work. I can&#x27;t imagine switching back to Eclipse, and the switch to IntelliJ was not at all difficult. The Android plugin for IntelliJ does a lot for you.
smartician大约 11 年前
It&#x27;s not that bad actually. The refactoring tools are pretty good, and other things like CTRL-Shift-T to open any file by name are nice too. Sometimes it throws a small to medium sized wrench into my spokes, but that&#x27;s pretty rare.
rythmshifter大约 11 年前
what do you suggest instead?<p>jGrasp wont install on my linux machines for some reason and I have never had anyone propose anything else.<p>(i&#x27;m an entry level java student)
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Justsignedup大约 11 年前
We still haven&#x27;t migrated to IntelliJ. No other reason, though IntelliJ is expensive. What are the alternatives? Netbeans doesn&#x27;t support aspectj.
mmorett大约 11 年前
Because it&#x27;s free. Or they learned it over the years (and began with it, because it&#x27;s free). IntelliJ is only $199, yet &quot;professional&quot; developers insist on using Eclipse. Like, $199 is too much to spend on your craft.<p>Screw FizzBuzz...the first question on an interview should be: Do you use Eclipse? That speaks volumes, far more than a silly set of &quot;if&quot; statements and making use of the modulus operator.
umenline大约 11 年前
CDT c++ for linux, free java IDE its slow but no alternative i wish someone did java IDE build with c++
peterashford大约 11 年前
I only use eclipse for APIs that only have an eclipse release&#x2F;build&#x2F;plugin.
peapicker大约 11 年前
XText and DSLs.
Zigurd大约 11 年前
Tedious: Yes. It thinks it is a platform. It thinks users care about its architecture, which is over-engineered. It has it&#x27;s own package manager. It is tedious.<p>Slow: Buy a new computer. With memory. Sheesh.<p>Unusable: Well, it can be used. But it is a travesty of a GUI. A GUI should offer only valid operations. Eclipse lets, nay offers, nay presents on a silver platter just a click away the opportunity to do senseless destructive things. Thousands of them for every one sensible right thing you can do. It is my nominee for Least Discoverable Human Interface.<p>&quot;Apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?&quot;<p>I use Eclipse. I don&#x27;t find Android Studio to be materially better. I am constantly offended by Eclipse being the most rule-breaking in-a-bad-way GUI ever. If it didn&#x27;t have great refactoring (that works about 80% of the way when Android XML files are involved) and pretty good code completion and documentation pop-ups I would be more motivated to replace it.
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