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When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?

31 点作者 marwei大约 11 年前

15 条评论

doesnt_know大约 11 年前
Ugh, is this even a question anywhere except in the US? The ISP should be paying for it because that is literally the service they are suppose to be providing, it&#x27;s the reason consumers are giving them money.<p>In what other industry can you accept payment for a service and then try to make a legitimate claim that you then don&#x27;t have to provide that service or maintain the infrastructure you are selling? It&#x27;s fucking nuts.<p>When the so called &quot;free market&quot; fails and you have monopolies in place that are so anti-competitive and anti-consumer, then maybe it&#x27;s time to go looking for another solution.<p>Perhaps this is the situation when it&#x27;s time to look for some sort of state or government regulation. Or maybe it&#x27;s the exact opposite. Perhaps these companies are in control of tight regulatory procedures that it prevents competition. I&#x27;m not overly familiar with the current system in place in the US, but whatever the current situation is, you really need to start demanding the exact opposite.
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Lockyy大约 11 年前
I had always assumed that when I paid an ISP for an internet connection that payment was so that I could send and receive packets across their network. Clearly I was wrong.
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drawkbox大约 11 年前
<i>&quot;This is why there are fights right now between Netflix and Internet service providers. The fight comes down to this: Who&#x27;s going to pay to keep the videos running smoothly? Will it be Netflix, which is sending all the data? Or companies like Time Warner, whose customers, like Rachel, are demanding it?&quot;</i><p>Rachel pays Time Warner for her broadband connection to get her data from anywhere on the internet, as was sold to her by Time Warner which is the current day technology that is expected of broadband network access. Time Warner built their network upon receiving many tax breaks for their prime market position.<p>Rachel pays Netflix for the content that comes through the network.<p>The system is correctly setup except one minor flaw, if Time Warner doesn&#x27;t want to pay for it then a competitor can&#x27;t offer the same service or get the same funding and breaks they did to compete.<p>The broadband companies are lethargic dinosaurs, hopefully network access will go right over their heads (even if by Zuckerberg drones), when wires aren&#x27;t needed we can release them.
al2o3cr大约 11 年前
Who pays? The same person who pays for the food to go the &quot;last mile&quot; from the restaurant kitchen to the table - THE CUSTOMER...<p>The ISPs appear to be confused about who it is that&#x27;s paying them for a pipe. I&#x27;ll offer them a hint: it&#x27;s the people you send those rate increase notices to every 12 months.
collint大约 11 年前
Yikes this article is painfully light on analysis.
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ShabbyDoo大约 11 年前
I&#x27;ve always seen local governments as the root cause of &quot;last mile&quot; providers&#x27; ability to turn their customers into the product. Why haven&#x27;t elected officials made more stringent demands upon the companies given monopoly (or at best duopoly) rights to convey bits to and from my home?<p>I have a condo in Chicago and was delighted to learn that a company was offering our building last mile connectivity via microwave along with SLAs for not only bandwidth but latency as well (to which point I don&#x27;t recall)! Sadly, the condo board didn&#x27;t seem so enthralled. Unlike the suburbs, city folk have more options apparently.
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LanceH大约 11 年前
I would like to see someone do a traceroute and explain the hops, who is paying at each step, which steps are in dispute, etc...
jeffdavis大约 11 年前
I wonder what would happen if netflix called their bluff?<p>People all of a sudden start to notice that House Of Cards plays more smoothly over their 4G cell connection than their expensive cable connection, and how does Time Warner explain that?
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houseofshards大约 11 年前
WTF ?? This argument is so ridiculous. &quot;ISP&quot; stands for Internet Service Provider as in, an entity that provides an internet service (and maintains the necessary infrastructure). That is why people pay them.
qq66大约 11 年前
The problem here is that a framework built in one environment (settlement-free peering) has a lot of problems as the underlying environment has changed.<p>Let&#x27;s say everyone in the United States had a second mailbox, and each mailbox is owned by FedEx, UPS, or DHL. To ship a package, you leave it in your box, it&#x27;s picked up by your carrier, transferred to the recipient&#x27;s carrier, who then delivers it to their box. Only the sender is billed, and this shipment fee includes whatever your carrier will have to pay to your recipient&#x27;s carrier to complete delivery.<p>When these mailboxes are built, most people in the country are shipping as many boxes as they receive, and the number of packages sent by and received by customers of each carrier are roughly the same (let&#x27;s say a total of 15,000 per day). So FedEx, UPS, and DHL, to avoid having to track every single package, just decide to &quot;call it a wash&quot; and deliver each other&#x27;s boxes for free, under the assumption that nobody&#x27;s really getting the upper hand.<p>Fast forward twenty years, and Jeff Bezos has built Amazon.com at his house. His house is a UPS house, so UPS picks up 15 million boxes from him every morning, and hands over 10 million of them to FedEx and DHL for delivery. FedEx and DHL are billing their customers for 15,000 boxes but also have to deliver Bezos&#x27; 10 million boxes.<p>You can imagine that they&#x27;d want to revisit their original agreement to &quot;call it a wash&quot; and start billing by the actual package.
johnvschmitt大约 11 年前
This is just ridiculous on so many levels.<p>So, should we start debating whether UPS should pay for roads directly in each city?<p>Are our roads going to start being &quot;content aware&quot; &amp; extorting delivery service vendors?
NautilusWave大约 11 年前
If Netflix is using Amazon Web Services to run its streaming operations, then how did Netflix even get involved in this bandwidth issue? Isn&#x27;t that included in the bill they pay to Amazon?
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ASneakyFox大约 11 年前
I thought this was covered in my internet bill. You know network communication... if that was supposed to be free all this time some one let me know because then Ive got to call the police because some one has been scamming me out of 50 bux every month for the past 2 decades. I suspect there are more victims.
EpicEng大约 11 年前
&gt;Who&#x27;s going to pay to keep the videos running smoothly?<p>...Me? Do I not pay for my internet service? Are ISP&#x27;s not subsidized to build infrastructure by my tax dollars? Is my ISP running at a deficit? Yes, yes, and no, I don&#x27;t believe so. I pay Netflix for the content, I pay my ISP to deliver it.
kashkhan大约 11 年前
why should time warner own the last mile? It should be owned by the homeowners.
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