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Tech startup scene starting to flourish in Oakland

72 点作者 jessepollak大约 11 年前

11 条评论

paulbaumgart大约 11 年前
Most of the rise in commercial rents in SF is related to the non-linear economics of the top tech startups. If your business model is scalable enough (and you&#x27;re executing properly), the vast amounts of available capital mean that rent is a pretty negligible expense.<p>The trend we&#x27;re seeing in the prices of things that software startups need to pay for-- primarily talent and office space-- is that they&#x27;re also starting to follow a power-law distribution.<p>I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if, in future, the most desirable commercial real estate and the most desirable employees start costing an even larger multiple compared to the median.
thrownaway2424大约 11 年前
I moved to SF 20 years ago and to oakland 5 years ago. The differences are pretty huge. Main thing for me is oakland is the place where people make things. There are lots of cabinet makers, butchers, shipwrights, and suchlike places. Even things that people might associate with sf are sometimes made in oakland, like boccalone meats, or blue bottle coffee. There are loads of hacker spaces and coops, too.<p>If you want to start a business you could hardly find a better place. Real estate is cheap. Labor is readily available up and down the scale. You can find plenty of janitors, stone masons, or maybe you can even poach employees tired of the commute to Facebook or genentech or yahoo. Transportation costs approximate zero since there is no parking pressure, a subway, a sprawling bus system, and mainline train service, which even sf lacks.<p>So if you are out to start a business oakland makes sense. If you want to be in the valley scene then of course it makes no sense at all, not being in the valley and all that.
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6cxs2hd6大约 11 年前
&gt; <i>The city also lacks a cluster of local venture firms that could kick-start investment in hometown companies. And the major players on Sand Hill Road tend to spend in San Francisco&#x27;s better-established tech scene or in the valley closer to home.</i><p>This makes Sand Hill sound extremely insular and provincial -- that it&#x27;s not enough to be in the Bay Area, you have to be in one of the &quot;right&quot; neighborhoods. That Oakland may as well be Podunk, Flyover State. Is that really true??
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hueving大约 11 年前
It was briefly touched upon in the article, but would a current Oakland resident care to shed some light on the crime that does occur? Is it mainly focused to a few bad areas, or do you always have to be extra careful when out in public after dark?
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mikeryan大约 11 年前
So the biggest issue I see right now with Oakland is that it really suffers from a lack of decent or desirable office space.<p>I&#x27;m currently 15 months into an SF lease for my company and when I originally looked for space I spent a lot of time looking in Oakland thinking I&#x27;d get a lot greater value. Unfortunately I found only one nice &quot;SOMA style&quot; space in Oakland it was right on the edge of Chinatown in an area I&#x27;m not sure I&#x27;d want female employees walking to BART late at night.<p>Honestly there&#x27;s a huge opportunity here for some developers to look at building out some nicer office spaces in Oldtown, Jack London or the Grand&#x2F;Broadway area near 19th St BART. I don&#x27;t mean stuff thats gorgeous just something slightly contemporary would be an upgrade.
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prodigal_erik大约 11 年前
I think there&#x27;s a fair chance that the &quot;class&quot; motivated hate against tech workers will turn violent, and if it does it&#x27;ll be sooner and more severe in Oakland (and the Mission) than elsewhere in SF and the valley. We&#x27;re already seeing hints: <a href="http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2013/12/20/bus-blocked-again-in-tech-boom-backlash/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.sfgate.com&#x2F;stew&#x2F;2013&#x2F;12&#x2F;20&#x2F;bus-blocked-again-in-...</a> <a href="https://defendthebayarea.org/call-for-a-week-of-action-march-28-april-5-2/" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;defendthebayarea.org&#x2F;call-for-a-week-of-action-march...</a>
naveenspark大约 11 年前
I live and work in Oakland. My office is 3 blocks from 19th street BART in the heart of uptown. There is so much incredible development happening in this part of the city. The Hive project launches later this year (The Hub is already open in the space) with awesome new apartments, and amazing new food options. From Lake Merritt to Jack London Sq. to Rockridge to Montclair there are a wide range of options to consider for office &#x2F; living space. Its also typically ~10 degrees warmer then SF. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I&#x27;ll answer when I get back this afternoon.
samstave大约 11 年前
Im biased. I cant stand anything about oakland.<p>I recenty looked at an amazing house on an amazing street, but opted against it because the adjacent area was far too ghetto and, even though that street (in maxwell park) seemed wonderful - the surrounding area off high street would make bikeing or walking to a store or bart unpleasant.<p>Where i want to see startup spaces is on the old naval base in alameda.<p>EDIT: apparenty saying you dont like oakland is an unpopular opinion to have ;)<p>Well, for those talking about it, please come check out alameda - its the best city in mediate vicinity to SF, IMO.
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mightybrenden大约 11 年前
Here&#x27;s one of my favorite new startups in uptown Oakland <a href="http://spotlabs.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;spotlabs.com</a>
morenoh149大约 11 年前
I live in SF and have a friend that lives in oakland. Always interested in possibly moving out there or getting a work space out there.
h1karu大约 11 年前
oakland daytime sideshows: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quzzw2rW4_M" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Quzzw2rW4_M</a>
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