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Amazon Fire TV

388 点作者 ndrake大约 11 年前

81 条评论

programminggeek大约 11 年前
This is pretty much what Google TV should have been all along, but Google cares too much about web search and not enough about what people actually want to do on a TV - watch shows and play games.<p>The gaming aspect of this will make it a winner. OUYA&#x27;s big problem is that it didn&#x27;t do streaming and was a bit clunky. Amazon has a big game library and just needs controller support.<p>As a parent, a $100 streaming box and game console that has cheap&#x2F;free games is very appealing.<p>As a developer, the economics of game development for such a console is not so great, but maybe IAP would make it worthwhile.
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WoodenChair大约 11 年前
I&#x27;m really not that impressed. This is just Apple TV for the Amazon eco-system with gaming lopped on. The majority of people don&#x27;t care about the specs of their set-top box since that really doesn&#x27;t affect the performance of streaming an HD video in this day and age. So the two differentiating features are:<p>- Voice Search<p>- Gaming<p>Are those enough of a value proposition? Probably not to make converts. I suspect the main buyers will be those who simply have bought into Amazon Instant Video as opposed to iTunes in the past. Let&#x27;s see what Apple&#x27;s next revision of Apple TV offers.
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eclipxe大约 11 年前
Fire TV supports standards like DIAL[1], so app developers can enable multi-screen experiences based on open technologies.[2]<p>[1] <a href="http://www.dial-multiscreen.org/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dial-multiscreen.org&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=176060&amp;p=irol-newsArticle&amp;ID=1915168&amp;highlight=" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;phx.corporate-ir.net&#x2F;phoenix.zhtml?c=176060&amp;p=irol-ne...</a>
swanson大约 11 年前
The side-by-side comparison with Roku&#x2F;AppleTV actually looks pretty bad for Amazon Fire TV...<p>Same price, the only differences are that the Fire TV has voice search (don&#x27;t care), a bunch of technical specs that the layperson doesn&#x27;t care about, and a bunch of games (don&#x27;t care). It&#x27;s missing the checkbox for HBO GO (deal breaker for me personally).<p>I was expecting something like a monthly subscription for all-you-can-watch access to any TV show on Amazon Instant (not just the free Prime episodes). Kinda bummed because I really like Amazon as a content provider, but I&#x27;ll be sticking with Roku for now.
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mashmac2大约 11 年前
Amazon FreeTime (coming next month, according to this page) is the most interesting piece for me - customized child safety settings for each child, with monthly subscriptions at $2.99 for children&#x27;s TV shows.<p>It seems like Amazon recognized the popularity of streaming services for parents of young kids and is setting this up just for them...
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mmcclure大约 11 年前
I know this is a nitpick...I really do, but for some reason things like this in marketing copy really annoy me:<p>&quot;Remote with no line of sight required&quot; - not checked for Chromecast. While kind of true since Chromecast doesn&#x27;t have a dedicated remote, but the devices used to control it absolutely don&#x27;t require line of site.
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declan大约 11 年前
This is a reasonable answer to Apple TV.<p>If you have videos on or subscriptions to iTunes, Netflix, and Amazon Prime (as I do), there&#x27;s no box I&#x27;m aware of that will let you watch all three. So you end up using your Apple TV and then Roku or another box -- the Playstation 3 in my living room takes a long time to boot, and a long time to load the Netflix app, draws quite a bit of power, and is overkill for merely watching streaming video. The Amazon Fire TV, assuming it&#x27;s fast enough, will add another device to my living room cabinet but make it a lot faster to switch to watching Amazon Prime videos.<p>Ideally Apple would allow Amazon to add Prime Streaming to the Apple TV box, or Roku would get the iTunes library. Then I could have an all-in-one box. But we all know that&#x27;s not going to happen...
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mkempe大约 11 年前
They&#x27;re studying the mistakes of others, and paying attention to user reviews of competing products, so they can solve real pain points:<p>&gt; During its presentation, Amazon said that it has been paying close attention to the complaints of customers who have been using the other companies&#x27; devices through Amazon—namely that search is difficult, performance is laggy, and the ecosystems are closed—in order to build its own streaming device.&quot; [1]<p>For instance, what they&#x27;re doing with the child-oriented mode is what I wish Apple had done with the iPad and iPhone, a long time ago.<p>[1] <a href="http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/04/amazon-reveals-video-streaming-box-fire-tv/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;gadgets&#x2F;2014&#x2F;04&#x2F;amazon-reveals-video-...</a>
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stevenp大约 11 年前
For me, AirPlay is the killer Apple TV feature. Any time a new app comes out for iOS that supports streaming video, I know I&#x27;m going to be able to play it on my television. The local content provider apps on the device don&#x27;t really matter that much to me. I can even stream Amazon Prime video to my Apple TV, so I&#x27;m having a hard time seeing why I would want this instead of waiting for the next generation Apple TV.
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tehwebguy大约 11 年前
I think this will be huge.<p>It will only take one great game for this thing to pop. With a system that enough users will have in the living room someone is going to put together a fun free-to-play FPS and that will be enough for it to be the clear winner over AppleTV &#x2F; Chromecast.<p>Voice search is a big deal if it works the way I think it does. TV is easy, everyone knows how to use one and how to find what they want to watch. Navigating between Netflix, Hulu, Instant, iTunes, Cruncyroll, NBC ... is a pain. Even on my AppleTV navigating Netflix alone is the worst.
landhar大约 11 年前
What I find most exciting is that this finally opens the doors for indie game developers to write games for the big screen.<p>It is true that Steam was already doing that, but I think the audience of people with a PC plugged to a TV screen in the living room or that owns a Steam box is not as big as what the Fire TV owners might end up being
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ChuckMcM大约 11 年前
I am kind of surprised the Roku manages to stay independent in all the &#x27;tv&#x27; efforts. They have a really nice player and now a nice &#x27;stick&#x27; player. Also a pretty easy to use SDK. So why re-build all or much of that for a proprietary box? Any thoughts on that strategy?
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duked大约 11 年前
I was an early Ouya backer and was really really disappointed I sold it (like 1 month after I received it. This Amazon Fire TV may be what the Ouya was supposed to be, I mean I know it&#x27;s more seen as a Roku&#x2F;Apple TV competitor but for me if it runs Android then I can use it as a decent Emulation machine (RetroArch etc... )<p>I will buy one for sure
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bernardom大约 11 年前
So that answers my question of whether my Apple TV would ever get Amazon streaming.
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pazimzadeh大约 11 年前
What I&#x27;m taking away from this is that Fire TV is the same as Roku and Apple TV.<p>As for the gaming capabilities, it&#x27;ll be interesting to see if they can compete with Steam Machine.
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Dwolb大约 11 年前
Does Amazon see the future?<p>Content delivery platform for commercials&#x2F;suggestions + shipping infrastructure to deliver products + drone delivery for last mile = Commercials with immediate product purchase ability.<p>Amazon can even broadcast a commercial in a geographic area, know the percentage of users who will immediately want the commercial&#x27;s product, and pre-emptively unleash drones to a geographic location to drop off the product within seconds.
suyash大约 11 年前
Android Developers who want to jump into this opportunity: <a href="https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/asb.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.amazon.com&#x2F;sdk&#x2F;asb.html</a> &amp; <a href="https://developer.amazon.com/public/community/blog/author/Mike+Hines" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.amazon.com&#x2F;public&#x2F;community&#x2F;blog&#x2F;author&#x2F;Mi...</a>
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drawkbox大约 11 年前
Impressive, they beat Apple TV and Google to the app&#x2F;game punch. This could be big. Disappointed in Apple doing nothing with TV apps&#x2F;games, all the while having years of lead time.
jggonz大约 11 年前
I like the voice search idea, but I&#x27;m still hooked on the Chromecast &#x2F; HDMI on a stick form factor. I just don&#x27;t see the point in cables anymore.<p>The UI looks neat and I&#x27;m really impressed with Amazon&#x27;s search results on my Roku, so this will probably improve on that.<p>If it wasn&#x27;t so &#x27;big&#x27; and &#x27;expensive&#x27;, I&#x27;d buy one.
mikeryan大约 11 年前
More information about the SDK has also been released here:<p><a href="https://developer.amazon.com/public/community/post/Tx1K5ORNNPOMUXA/Put-your-Apps-and-Games-on-more-screens-with-Amazon-Fire-TV" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.amazon.com&#x2F;public&#x2F;community&#x2F;post&#x2F;Tx1K5ORNN...</a>
abdophoto大约 11 年前
I keep thinking to myself &quot;The second Apple puts out an SDK for the Apple TV, it&#x27;s over&quot;<p>If you&#x27;re going to spend $99, you&#x27;re probably going to wait for Apple or Google. If you want to spend less, you&#x27;ll just get a Chromecast.
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hswolff大约 11 年前
Does this support playing local media? It seems like no, but I couldn&#x27;t find any explicit answer.
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timdierks大约 11 年前
I have difficulty envisioning exactly how this market is going to develop. None of the products (AppleTV, Roku, Google, Amazon) are differentiated enough to imagine someone who&#x27;s pretty happy with their box switching, particularly given various ways you&#x27;d get locked into particular features or media (e.g., if the average AppleTV user has bought a bunch of movies from iTunes, they&#x27;re unlikely to switch to Amazon even if they like the games).<p>At the price point, you can imagine people owning more than one device to get access to different feature silos, but the huge duplication of features (e.g. every device having Netflix) makes this feel wasteful. Furthermore, I think people quickly run into a limitation on how many HDMI ports their TV has. If you&#x27;re going to have a cable box and DVD&#x2F;BluRay player connected, you need to have 3 ports to be able to connect one of these devices at all, and you can&#x27;t plausibly have more than two. (I don&#x27;t know how many HDMI ports TVs have in the market, but 2, 3, and 4 seems to cover the consumer space in a very small sampling of Amazon availability.)<p>If I were building one of these devices, I would include an HDMI switch with pass-through so I don&#x27;t consume an HDMI port. In the absence of that, it&#x27;s not clear at all to me what the shape of market adoption looks like.
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theseanstewart大约 11 年前
This looks really cool but I&#x27;ll have to wait and see how it compares to the other devices that accomplish the same objectives. I would have liked to see it include gigabit ethernet instead of just 10&#x2F;100. Interesting that they have a game controller available.<p>I&#x27;ve been looking for something to replace my Popcorn Hour, but I haven&#x27;t been able to find anything in this price range that will play MKV files and allow playing movies over USB. Maybe this will be the answer?
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jstalin大约 11 年前
I love it, but I don&#x27;t see that there is an app for non-kindle devices for managing or playing video for the Fire TV. The thing I like about chromecast is the ability to browse and play video from my ipad. But of course chromecast doesn&#x27;t have amazon prime, so I have to switch to my roku to watch Walking Dead.<p>If Fire TV has an app to manage it for ipad or android, then it&#x27;s pretty much the perfect device.
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aashaykumar92大约 11 年前
The competitive advantage seems to be in the Voice Search and in the gaming. If the gaming takes off, it&#x27;ll be hard for anyone to compete. Everyone so far is talking about the Roku and Apple TV as competition, which they are, but what about the Xbox and PS4? Those offer gaming and other streaming services like Netflix too. And it seems as though Amazon is trying to be at the center of all of them.
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johne20大约 11 年前
This device plus antenna input for over-the-air local HD channels combined with simple dvr functionality would be the ultimate cord-cutting device.
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matthewaustin大约 11 年前
Prominently showing Game of Thrones content in the images, even though the Fire doesn&#x27;t support HBO Go? Way to be deceptive, Amazon.
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aresant大约 11 年前
I think this represents the first device to support Amazon streaming in 1080p - as far as I know Roku etc are still limited to 720p?
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shirro大约 11 年前
I love chromecast (have two imported) and for my use the lack of features such as remote&#x2F;ui are a huge bonus over the slow dysfunctional bloatware crap in &quot;smart&quot; televisions. I want my screen to be just another display device I can send stuff too rather than the focus. That would probably change if I wanted my tv dongle to double as a games console but at current price&#x2F;performance I don&#x27;t see acceptable big screen gaming happening in a sub $100 device for awhile yet.<p>I think people are going to go with price rather than features for tv and Chromecast&#x2F;Roku and a mountain of clones will take most of the sales. People who want to play games aren&#x27;t going to do it on a $100 box from Amazon. They will stick to Xbox One&#x2F;PS4 or a Steam box.<p>I imagine Amazon are thinking they can rely on content to sell these but I don&#x27;t know that they are that strong an offering. However this turns out the real winners are going to be Netflix.
ycaspirant大约 11 年前
Why is this priced on par with Apple TV? That&#x27;s like pricing a Kindle on par with an iPad. I always thought that unlike Apple, Amazon&#x27;s strategy was to sell really cheap hardware so that you can consume more content.
impostervt大约 11 年前
And I just bought the new Roku Streaming stick...I&#x27;ll be curious to see how they stack up. Amazon offers a comparison of FireTV to the Roku3, but not the Roku Streaming Stick. And the Stick is just $49.
eclipxe大约 11 年前
Congrats to the FireTV team!
tejbirwason大约 11 年前
Glad to finally see Amazon announce this. Also I can finally share with family and friends about what I worked on during my internship at Broadcom. It took longer than expected for Amazon to finally release it which makes me think they went through multiple chip design iterations after I finished my internship at Broadcom last year. So long in fact that I thought it would never see the light of day. Excited to see how customers respond, this is definitely going to shake things up. Glad I had a small role in bringing this to life.
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acgourley大约 11 年前
I&#x27;ll be curious how good the screen mirroring is. Does anyone know if it&#x27;s using a direct connection (like miracast) or an indirect over your normal wifi rounter (like apple tv mirroring)?
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barlescabbage大约 11 年前
Not enough differentiation, give us some other channels, live news, or broadcast TV and we&#x27;ll buy it in a heartbeat. Otherwise your features are surprisingly irrelevant.<p>This is mostly bad news for Roku, before this, the paradigm was, Apple TV for iTunes, Roku for Amazon. During the holidays there were so many roku photos on amazon, I thought they owned them. I think Amazon will slowly strangle Roku. Amazon probably tried to buy Roku, they declined, so they said, &quot;fine we&#x27;ll make our on device and crush you&quot; Typical Amazon.
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robogrowth大约 11 年前
$35 and chromecast work for me.. don&#x27;t see a need for this. Not only that I can just start playing any video and browse to 127.0.0.1:8888 and stream whatever I want via chromecast.
revelation大约 11 年前
<i>Alpha House</i><p>And there it is, as a dropdown appears with only one entry you still have to select, and then continue to travel three menus deep to get to a point where video appears.<p>What are they thinking?
totallymike大约 11 年前
Interestingly enough, the &#x27;What is Fire TV&#x27; video heavily features HBO content (Game of Thrones, Veep, etc), but doesn&#x27;t support HBO Go?
brandonbica大约 11 年前
To me it looks like the biggest comparison is Apple TV (and Roku which I&#x27;m less familiar with). It&#x27;s just an incremental version of the Apple TV for the Amazon ecosystem and to me that&#x27;s the biggest disappointment. I would have much preferred that they go in the direction of incremental improvement over the Chromecast which would make this industry much more exciting in my opinion.
superqd大约 11 年前
So is everyone making these now? The only thing Amazon seems to have brought to this is voice command, assuming it has actually been brought.
eshvk大约 11 年前
So I just bought a new TV that has Amazon Prime, Netflix, Voice search integrated into it. I don&#x27;t play games. Is there any point in me getting this vs getting an Apple TV or a Chromecast? The only thing I would use an Apple TV (all computers in my house are macs) for is to screenshare wirelessly. I believe Chromecast lets me do that for specific apps.
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badman_ting大约 11 年前
I have a WD Live TV box that I&#x27;ve enjoyed so far. It has all these streaming services except Amazon Prime, and it will play all my AVI&#x2F;MP4&#x2F;MKV files, streaming over DLNA.<p>This has some sweet features though, the voice search sounds good and the horsepower should allow for an overall nicer experience (speed of booting, menus, graphical effects in apps, etc).
periferral大约 11 年前
The one thing about the Roku I like a lot is the headset on the remote. I love that! I can be in a room with my headset and not disturb my wife sleeping and enjoy the show.<p>The lack on the headset jack on the remote on this for me would be a non-starter. Other than that, nothing to write home about. I can&#x27;t see anything here that would make me switch from the Roku.
karangoeluw大约 11 年前
This seems like a really good offering by Amazon. Now we&#x27;ll just have to see if the competition lowers its prices or no.
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dcc1大约 11 年前
Anyone know if this will work for nonUSAsians
chrisgd大约 11 年前
What is everyone using for a DVR? Why doesn&#x27;t this include some time of recording, storage and pausing capabilities? The DVR provided by the cable companies are laggy and the Tivo one charges a monthly fee for what equates to updating program guides, but not accounting for shows actually running over.
mrfusion大约 11 年前
Is it missing YouTube? Also, if it easy to buy newly released movies like you can with iTunes on the Apple TV?
Pxtl大约 11 年前
How hackable will the android on this thing be? Will you be able to connect bluetooth-based gamepads to it?
rch大约 11 年前
&gt; enjoy best-selling titles from Mojang, EA, Disney...<p>Now that&#x27;s an interesting order of emphasis.
walkon大约 11 年前
Do these convex&#x2F;rounded remotes that this and the Roku have bother anyone else? They seem to slide off the couch easier and if I set it down on a flat surface, it rocks back and forth for several seconds.
whoisnatelam大约 11 年前
Looks like we can develop for this. If you&#x27;re an Android developer you should check out all the specs and docs here: <a href="http://bit.ly/1pLH83y" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bit.ly&#x2F;1pLH83y</a>
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mkempe大约 11 年前
I&#x27;ve thought for a while that a voice-interface was one of the features Steve Jobs saw as key to &quot;cracking&quot; TV.<p>Now Amazon has done it. I&#x27;m curious about what Apple may announce later this month.
yblu大约 11 年前
I had a Roku and returned it. Amzn Fire TV doesn&#x27;t seem much better. I&#x27;m sticking with PS3 for now, the only thing that can stream Youtube, Netflix, Amazon Instance Video and what not.
thewordis大约 11 年前
Fire TV lacks iTunes and Google Play. Apple TV lacks Google Play and Amazon Prime Instant Video. Chromecast lacks iTunes and Amazon Prime Instant Video.<p>And now we have a million and one ways to watch Netflix.
chocks大约 11 年前
curious if it&#x27;ll support YouTube, didn&#x27;t see on the list.
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cavilling_elite大约 11 年前
No rechargeable remote? Should of had a simple dock on top to charge the remote and another dock purchased with the game pad. No need for batteries.
Osiris大约 11 年前
I ordered one with 1-day shipping.<p>I&#x27;m heading to Sunnyvale for a week and I&#x27;m tempted to take it with me to see how it works over the hotel WiFi.
limejuice大约 11 年前
I have a Sony BluRay player I bought for $70 which plays Blu Rays, Amazon video, Netflix, etc. Why would I want to pay $99 for this box.
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SlashmanX大约 11 年前
Any indication on whether or not it will run XBMC?
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sureshv大约 11 年前
Does it have a headphone jack on the remote ala the Roku 3? It&#x27;s probably one of the more useful features on the new Roku box.
_superposition_大约 11 年前
Cant wait to jailbreak this and run xbmc on it.
Splendor大约 11 年前
I don&#x27;t want another box and remote. I would rather have an Amazon Video app with Chromecast functionality for Android.
dataminded大约 11 年前
How many remotes will this support? If I can hook up 2-4 controllers to it then it will be in my house soon.
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dusty64大约 11 年前
There is a trick to enter diagnostic&#x2F;device mode and enter CLI debug. Email dusty64@hushmail.com
bluthru大约 11 年前
The lady in the photo looks like she&#x27;s confusing the remote for a candy bar.
shurcooL大约 11 年前
For gaming, this would be an ideal place to have an OnLive client.
blueash大约 11 年前
Any idea how many controllers the system will support?
mistermcgruff大约 11 年前
Not seeing HBO Go. That means no GoT on demand :-(
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mindslight大约 11 年前
Or simply stick with a Raspberry Pi, which is free of arbitrary manufacturer-imposted restrictions and comfortably off of the locked-down-software induced upgrade treadmill.
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dgrant大约 11 年前
Anyone know if this supports DLNA?
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abjorn大约 11 年前
Or you could just buy a Roku?
Edmond大约 11 年前
well if this works as advertised it seems the end of cable could very near.
theorique大约 11 年前
Pretty cool: <a href="http://firetv.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;firetv.com</a>
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vladgur大约 11 年前
oh my, it looks like it supports mkv containers.
benhebert大约 11 年前
Ouch no HBO Go.
fjabre大约 11 年前
this is a me too product
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NextUserName大约 11 年前
Tech specs here: <a href="https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/asb/device-specs.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;developer.amazon.com&#x2F;sdk&#x2F;asb&#x2F;device-specs.html</a>
jpatel3大约 11 年前
Just another Roku, Google TV, Apple TV
UncleChis大约 11 年前
Do they try not to mention Youtube? Only in the comparison chart!
keehun大约 11 年前
This is not good enough. What&#x27;s the improvement that is worth $100?