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Can You Buy A License to Speed?

105 点作者 arnauddri大约 11 年前

29 条评论

Pxtl大约 11 年前
Let&#x27;s just take a step back and note something:<p>This is about human lives. Once you eliminate birth-defects, car accidents are the <i>leading</i> cause of death for people under 35. Particularly for young kids, who obviously aren&#x27;t driving.<p>Car accidents kill 34,000 Americans per-year. That&#x27;s like if 9&#x2F;11 happened <i>once a month every year</i>.<p>And speed matters. Stopping distance and kinetic energy go up with the <i>square</i> of velocity. A pedestrian hit by a car going 20 mph will almost certainly live. A person hit by a car going 40 mph will almost certainly die.
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mitchellh大约 11 年前
My grandfather is a retired police chief from a major metro. When I purchased my car (which has over 400 horsepower, so I like to... play), he told me to become part of the highway patrol or police charity organization. He told me when he was in law enforcement, any member of these organizations were treated &quot;much more lightly&quot; than others.<p>For only $25 or something like that, you can get a piece of paper you can put in your wallet to show you&#x27;re a member. For around $2,000, you can get a license plate frame.<p>He said even with the piece of paper, if you&#x27;re pulled over, you have a pretty good shot of being given a warning. You just need to make sure you show it to them when they pull you over.<p>With the license plate, he said he would never pull over someone with the license plate, because law enforcement doesn&#x27;t have enough money as it is and they&#x27;d rather not piss off those who have money to donate.<p>I didn&#x27;t really believe him (grandfathers and all), but I donated anyways (for a piece of paper, not the license plate). Now I see this article, and I&#x27;m starting to think he was serious.
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mrbill大约 11 年前
Grew up with both parents in law enforcement. The one time I risked name-dropping my mother in another county about an hour away, I lucked out and the guy knew her and gave me a warning - and I was in a vehicle with out-of-state plates (had come up to visit).<p>Friend of mine is a county cop near Houston. He told me, &quot;The bigger the stack of &#x27;I Donated to the 100 Club&#x27; stickers or whatever on their back window, the bigger the chance they&#x27;re going to be a dick and they&#x27;ll get a ticket anyway.&quot;<p>I&#x27;d say that having a Texas Mason license plate (not frame), being polite, saying &quot;Sir&quot; or &quot;Ma&#x27;am&quot; as appropriate, and handing over my CHL (as required by law) with my license&#x2F;insurance - showing that I&#x27;ve undergone a background check already - has more of a chance of getting me out of a ticket than any stack of stickers.<p>Unless I run into an officer that is anti-CHL - but so far, that hasn&#x27;t happened. Had one ask me &quot;Sir, do you have your weapon on you?&quot; &quot;No sir, I&#x27;m not allowed to have it on property at work.&quot; &quot;Well, you never know when you might need it.&quot;
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TamDenholm大约 11 年前
I&#x27;ve always wondered if it would be worth the government actually creating a &quot;license to speed&quot;. The same as you can get a license to drive a lorry or a motorcycle, why isnt there a license with a proper test that trains you specifically on driving fast. Then when you&#x27;re on the motorway only you can go up to 100mph instead of 70mph (UK), if the camera&#x27;s get you, it first does a check on your plate to see if you have a proper license and then decides on that if you get a ticket.<p>Cars are the safest they&#x27;ve ever been and are only going to get safer, unfortunately i think that driving ability is getting worse because of technology that keeps us safe in cars but i think an actual test to demonstrate you are a good driver would help. Hell, even make it only valid for 1 year and you have to sit the test again, and the test costs £5,000. You&#x27;ll STILL get plenty takers and hopefully make the road safer for the people that are going to speed regardless anyway.
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bagels大约 11 年前
I was really hoping that they had done a study to find out if it actually works.<p>They didn&#x27;t.
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grecy大约 11 年前
I think everyone is missing the real point:<p>&gt; <i>The CHP 11-99 Foundation has donated over $21 million in emergency assistance to the families of police officers, particularly officers killed in duty</i><p>Why do Police officers (and families) need donations to care for them?<p>Shouldn&#x27;t their job&#x2F;benefits do that?
staccatomeasure大约 11 年前
Anyone who is proud of speeding should come hang out and I&#x27;ll throw punches near your head just out of range. It&#x27;s cool I have it under control; it will bring me some pleasure and you will only be at risk if you get in my way or if someone dumber than me follows my example doesn&#x27;t have as much control.
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abruzzi大约 11 年前
Since a lot of the discussion has moved towards the relative safety of speeding, I&#x27;d be curious to see a break down of accidents and fatalities, by absolute speed, by in-excess speed, and by roadway type.<p>If I had to guess (having been in a number of accidents caused by other people) is that accidents are more common at lower speeds (because they are at intersections and other conflicting right of ways where you are more likely to be going slow) but fatalities are more likely at higher speeds where the safety systems fail to protect those involved.<p>However high speed accidents are not automatic death sentences as some posters have implied. I was in a head on collision on a small two lane residential street with no other traffic. Both vehicles were going 35mph, so effective collision speed was ~70mph. I was on a motorcycle and the oncoming truck was on a cell phone. He veered into my lane, and I tried to move left but parked cars limited my ability to avoid him. After the collision, I flew for a distance, and on landing my head hit the point of the curb. The two things that saved my life was (obviously) my helmet--without it, by brain would have been on the street--and I had crash bars that were severely deformed after the accident, but they kept my left leg from getting pinned between the bike and the truck.<p>So relatively high speed accidents can be survivable, especially with modern technology. The only injury I had was a badly sprained hip.
_xhok大约 11 年前
Wow, that&#x27;s not even a rich people thing. $1,800 for a lifetime speeding license is a decent deal for anyone who regularly likes speeding.
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jds375大约 11 年前
I find it very likely that when the foundation issued these license plates they knew people would donate to get them in order to avoid some speeding tickets. This probably resulted in a lot more funds raised than if they gave away jackets, hats, or something like that. Thus, it was clearly in 11-99&#x27;s best interest to do this.... And I don&#x27;t even think it&#x27;s a bad decision. Sure, some more people get off on speeding tickets, but the additional money raised allows 11-99 to better support the families of officers in times of crisis. At the end of the day, more of the latter seems a lot better to me than less of the former.
chrisBob大约 11 年前
Things like that only work to a point. I had a good friend who liked to drive fast and had a nice BMW with a purple heart license plate. He got out of a lot of trouble with that, until an incident where they revoked his license, and he couldn&#x27;t drive for a few years. Right or wrong the police give preferential treatment to people who gave money, time, or blood to a cause they support, but only to a point.<p>Personally, I have a bronze star plate on my car, and I don&#x27;t push my luck too much any more, but I also know for a fact it got me out of a ticket for an expired inspection.
optimusclimb大约 11 年前
I don&#x27;t understand why reporters&#x2F;investigators in articles like these bother asking such loaded questions to officials as, &quot;Do officers give leniency to license frame bearers?&quot;<p>I feel like, if you&#x27;re in that person&#x27;s shoes, even if you know damned well they do, saying &quot;yes&quot; would be equivalent to answering &quot;yes&quot; to, &quot;Would you like to lose your job or at least be put on leave within the next week?&quot;
GrinningFool大约 11 年前
People go to such amazing lengths to avoid getting a ticket, but it&#x27;s very easy to speed and not get pulled over.<p>1) Don&#x27;t drive stupid. It&#x27;s perfectly possible to drive very fast without driving badly. If you&#x27;re swerving a lot, accelerating then stomping on your brakes, jerking from lane to lane... it&#x27;s an indication that you&#x27;re not planning ahead and are therefore driving badly. You deserve to get pulled over. And for heaven&#x27;s sake, don&#x27;t race unless you&#x27;re willing to get pulled. Be a little grown up.<p>2) Go as fast as you want - but don&#x27;t be the fastest car on the road. Always let a cop-catcher run about a 1&#x2F;4 mile to 1&#x2F;2 mile ahead (don&#x27;t tailgate them, that&#x27;ll get you pulled over for speeding <i>and</i> being an ass).<p>3) Don&#x27;t use a detector. They give you a false sense of security and will guarantee that if you <i>do</i> get pulled, you get a ticket. Not only that, 90% of the time no officer is going to leave the radar &quot;wide open&quot; on all passing cars - which means your detector won&#x27;t go off until <i>after</i> you&#x27;ve been tagged.<p>4) Don&#x27;t speed in residential areas. There&#x27;s just no gain.<p>Bonus tips:<p>1) As much as possible, stay out of the left hand lane. That&#x27;s just easy pickings right there. edit: that doesn&#x27;t mean it&#x27;s okay to zip around people on the right. Just don&#x27;t sit there with the pedal on the floor. be there when you need to be - but don&#x27;t be there when you don&#x27;t .<p>2) When in an area that you can&#x27;t see possible hiding spaces get adept at feathering your speed down a bit and letting a car (ok) suv (better) , van or truck (best) on the left side shield you from that spot. Edit: again to clarify this doesn&#x27;t mean zip around on the right. You&#x27;re actually going to be gong slower or matching these cars, preferably from two lanes away. If you don&#x27;t have two lanes, don&#x27;t do this.<p>3) At night it&#x27;s especially easy. I don&#x27;t know if it&#x27;s the same in all staets ,but every one I&#x27;ve driven through cops have their headlights on while they wait. If you look far enough ahead - and you should be anyway otherwise you&#x27;re driving poorly and deserve a ticket - you can see a copy waiting a half mile off or more.<p>4) If you think you&#x27;ve been tagged, don&#x27;t slam your brakes. In addition to being a hazard, the cop has already tagged you - and the sudden flare of brakelights is a surefire giveaway to the fact that you <i>know</i> you were speeding. (This one is the hardest for most people...)<p>In the 1980s &quot;A Speeder&#x27;s Guide to Avoiding Tickets&quot; came out, written by a state patrol officer. I think most of what I do up there is a variation on what&#x27;s in that book. If you speed a lot but are willing to do so intelligently and safely, you should get it. It&#x27;s excellent and still as valid.<p>Anyway - that got long-winded. TL;DR: speed smart and safe, don&#x27;t be an idiot, and pay attention and you don&#x27;t need to spend money on a fancy license plate frame. (Or a FOP sticker in other states...)<p>- Speeding ticket free (and driving fast and smart in muscle cars) for more years than I can recall.
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fn42大约 11 年前
Yep, I thought this was general knowledge. Here in the northeast we have &quot;PBA Cards&quot; which can be given out by police to friends&#x2F;family&#x2F;donators that you are supposed to hand the officer with your license if you&#x27;re pulled over.<p>Although to be honest I&#x27;ve found that just being nice (&amp; maybe driving a real clean volvo) has gotten me out of a speeding ticket every time I&#x27;ve been pulled over
johnatwork大约 11 年前
Quebec used to have these stickers to place on your plate for registration (not anymore). And some police families were giving out plate stickers with VIP written on them, which as it was found out gave them leniency, as well as parking ticket immunity. Investigations happened, and as a result, no one has these anymore, at least as far as the general public know.
GFK_of_xmaspast大约 11 年前
The kind of drivers who would buy a license to speed are generally the kind of drivers who should have their license to drive revoked.
bbarn大约 11 年前
I can recall a marketing call where I was asked to donate to one association or another and told I&#x27;d get a window decal or something to that effect, and while it wouldn&#x27;t give me a free pass, it would certainly show officers on the road I appreciate them. I&#x27;ve got the exact verbage wrong, but that was the sentiment (this was several years ago). It was quite a hard sell from the solicitor, and I didn&#x27;t go for it. I was frankly a little disgusted by the call.<p>That said, I&#x27;ve been driving for 20 years, and pulled over one time. That one time, an out of state cop (in my home town) pulled me over because the license plate frame (from the dealership I bought the car at) partially obscured the state name and he couldn&#x27;t tell what it was. I suppose it could have been another state that ended in -nois, like lilinois, iiiinois, or something else, but more than likely, it was 5AM in a small town in Maine and I was circling around one-way streets looking lost or suspicious (I hadn&#x27;t been back there in many years). The cop gave me directions to the street my grandfather lived on, and told me to enjoy my trip.<p>The secret here is surprisingly simple, and applies to most everything else in life. Don&#x27;t be a dick. Drive around the same speed as other cars, and if you&#x27;re the only one on the road, don&#x27;t do more than 5-6 mph over the limit on the highway. It won&#x27;t cost you that much time, and if you&#x27;re the only one on the road it&#x27;s probably dark and&#x2F;or rural anyway so you SHOULD be more cautious, and in the end, you win either way, at the great expense of.. a few minutes time.<p>Another tip I&#x27;ve learned, is do as others do - especially on highways. Think about it, when you&#x27;re driving across country, how many other cars around you are undertaking that length of a trip? It&#x27;s far more likely most of them live in the area, and know what&#x27;s appropriate - both for safety, and for cop-avoidance.
batbomb大约 11 年前
You&#x27;ll almost never get pulled over for doing exactly 11 over on any street with a speed limit of 50 or higher. Thanks to the law of cosines, a cop is likely to read you going 10 or less or less, and cops generally don&#x27;t even bother with people doing 9 or less over, especially highway patrol.
syncerr大约 11 年前
A forum discussing plates like these: <a href="http://forums.officer.com/t124675/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;forums.officer.com&#x2F;t124675&#x2F;</a><p>&gt; Those are just as useless, they actually make me want to stop the car to see what the person is trying to hide...
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flycaliguy大约 11 年前
I would be interested in theories as to how many additional accidents and deaths this leniency has caused. The thought of a police force increasing the death rate on their roads in order financially support their coworkers is depressing to say the least.
danfolkes大约 11 年前
$20 dollars and make your own: <a href="http://www.autoplates.com/store/custom_apps_a_FrameStandardBAK.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.autoplates.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;custom_apps_a_FrameStandardB...</a>
13throwaway大约 11 年前
In Russia you can buy a blue light bar and they will let you speed.
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aresant大约 11 年前
Speaking from experience the 11-99 is as much a badge of bullshit honor amongst &quot;serious&quot; car enthusiasts.<p>Like I not only have a Porsche I have $2500 and I am a serious racer.<p>If pricenomics had presented one piece of actual data vs conjecture this would be compelling but barring that this is just linkbait and probably good marketing for more stupid vanity license plates just like the la times article they reference
lawncheer大约 11 年前
A police officer friend once told me, to put your hands out the window when you get pulled over, and leave them there, until the office tells you to stop. Then you casually say sorry and mention that an cop-friend told you to do it, to put their (the cops) minds at ease while they walk up. Anecdotal evidence on my end, suggests it works.
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eurleif大约 11 年前
I watched a friend get out of a ticket in California not by having a special license plate, but by being dressed in a suit, and being friendly. He was blatantly going 90+, and the cop seemed annoyed when he first approached the car. Then, I think &quot;this is a rich kid!&quot; clicked in his brain, and they had a nice chat.
wavesounds大约 11 年前
Can you copyright a license plate frame? I&#x27;d love to make a bunch of these things and go hand them out to low income minorities, those people deserve a break from the cops for once.
wnevets大约 11 年前
I actually have a PBA card given to me by a police officer that will supposedly help me get of out a ticket. It has nothing to do with wealth.
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sscalia大约 11 年前
These work. Very much discussed in SV car clubs. Many spotted in my local Audi club.<p>This + LIDAR jammer = no tickets.
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jaysonelliot大约 11 年前
If a 11-99 license plate frame were an effective protection against speeding tickets, the obvious question would be &quot;why not counterfeit one?&quot;<p>The cost of making even one frame would be far less than $2,500. Even better, why not make a batch of them and sell them illicitly?<p>The economics don&#x27;t seem to add up.
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