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Announcing the MIT Bitcoin Project

328 点作者 jordn大约 11 年前

27 条评论

twoodfin大约 11 年前
If you wanted to spend $500,000 to encourage the emergence of bitcoin in a &quot;market&quot; like MIT, I think it would be more productive to use the USD like a traditional subsidy: Pay MIT merchants to offer discounts on BTC-based sales. If I&#x27;m spending $40&#x2F;week at LaVerde&#x27;s, a 10% discount might be enough to get me to convert a few hundred dollars of my own money into BTC.<p>As it is, the project will have to deal with getting merchants set up to accept BTC anyway, and my bet is that most students will be content to sit on their BTC hoping for another price spike rather than go through the trouble of learning how to use it for everyday transactions.
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dlss大约 11 年前
This is very interesting. Having that many people all holding BTC will have a bootstrapping effect around MIT.<p>The three obvious effects are:<p>1. stores near campus will (probably) start supporting it<p>2. the black market on campus will (surely) start accepting it<p>3. Some undergraduates will invent things using it<p>I think #1 and #2 are more interesting by far than #3... I can&#x27;t wait to see what happens when BTC and USD are even vaguely on the same footing in a geographic area.
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ScottWhigham大约 11 年前
<i>Two MIT students have raised half a million dollars for a project to distribute $100 in bitcoin to every undergraduate student at MIT this fall.... The bulk of funding for the project is being provided by MIT alumni with significant additional support from within the Bitcoin community. The total of over $500,000 already pledged will cover the distribution of bitcoin to all 4,528 undergraduates</i><p>I guess I don&#x27;t understand the &quot;Why?&quot;. MIT kids are among the most elite already - why would people donate $100 to each student for that student to spend as he&#x2F;she wishes? It&#x27;s an honest question. As a company owner, why would you do this? What would be the benefits you would expect to see? I am clearly missing the &quot;Why?&quot; here. How would you feel if, after this first year, you found that 50% of the kids never did anything with the BTC? Or if 50% of the kids gave their BTC away to another student for nothing?<p>An interesting thing to see at the end was how many students ever logged in to set up an account, or even check their balance. The funding covers less than $50,000 for anything else - $452,000+ will go directly to the students. That leaves less than $50,000 to cover the administration, the distribution, and the education (a big part). If they get the education part wrong, it will have wasted a huge chunk of the $452,000.
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downandout大约 11 年前
Perhaps I&#x27;m wrong but wouldn&#x27;t it make more sense to actually just use the open source Bitcoin software to create their own altcoin......perhaps call them Mitcoins? They could give the initial, easily mined Mitcoins away to students, and spend the $500K on promoting it as a viable altcoin and getting the major exchanges to add it to their trading mix. With the credence lent to it by MIT, it would stand a far better chance of success than other altcoins, and the students that keep their initial coins would likely wind up with far more than $100.<p>This just kind of seems like they are squandering the $500K, and are completely ignoring their greatest asset: their association with MIT. That name carries alot of weight with the type of people that buy these currencies.
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chill1大约 11 年前
&gt; &quot;Two MIT students have raised half a million dollars for a project to distribute $100 in bitcoin to every undergraduate student at MIT this fall.&quot;<p>&gt; &quot;The organizers admit they do not know how students will decide to use their bitcoin. However, they plan to use the time between now and when the bitcoin is distributed to build up the Bitcoin ecosystem at MIT.&quot;<p>I&#x27;ve been waiting to hear about the next phase of bitcoin development; beyond exchanges and marketplaces. What would be the easiest way to keep tabs on the bitcoin projects at MIT? Is there a publicly accessible message board for this project?<p>Edit:<p>Reorganized this post a bit. Didn&#x27;t mean to side track so much from the content of the article.<p>Side note:<p>Please stop hijacking the native browser scrolling. I don&#x27;t know if it&#x27;s because I ate guláš for lunch, but the custom scroll effect on this site makes me feel nauseous. Additionally, the site doesn&#x27;t work at all without JavaScript. Why? The site could probably very easily be built to static HTML files for faster load times, decreased load on the server(s), and wouldn&#x27;t require JavaScript to render views.
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netcan大约 11 年前
I once read some account or theory of akkadian proto-currency. Market officials would issue clay coins stamped with a pictogram in exchange for goods like cattle or wine. These coins could be exchanged in the market and then would be be cashed in for the goods at the exchange. At that point the coin would be smashed. I guess more durable goods like wine could be stored long term in the exchange and the coins could function as a medium of exchange.<p>You could do something similar with bitcoins that might be fun on a campus. A trusted bank-like-thing issues clay coins that can be smashed to retrieve the private keys. It might be nice to be able to go from digital back to clay from time to time. It would be interesting to see if they trade at current bitcoin prices, how many get smashed, etc. It also adds a layer of anonymity that can be seen and understood by non tech savvy folks.
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gojomo大约 11 年前
Part of me is hoping this is a Caltech prank, and when the MIT students try to redeem their &quot;bitcoins&quot; they just find some obscene taunt left for them inside the blockchain.
uptown大约 11 年前
I&#x27;ve read the technical docs for bitcoin, but something I still don&#x27;t comprehend. With a distributed network like Bitcoin, how does the initial network get started? How do the first 2 or 4 or 12 nodes of a network find one another?
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patcon大约 11 年前
I like the premise, but it&#x27;s pretty evident that MIT will then have the highest concentration of naive Bitcoin users on the planet. Not sure what sort of folks might notice this and focus nefarious efforts there...
quantabytes大约 11 年前
It would be really interesting if the organizers recorded and tracked the Bitcoins that are distributed in this way using the block chain. It could be a financial parallel to the MIT Reality Mining dataset: <a href="http://realitycommons.media.mit.edu/realitymining.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;realitycommons.media.mit.edu&#x2F;realitymining.html</a>
syntheticnature大约 11 年前
Both the announcement and the comments here focus on the amount in USD. When will (the majority of) that half-million USD be converted to BTC? (Via exchange? Via swap with an individual or entity holding a bunch of coins? Nice way to hedge liquidity if you&#x27;ve got the BTC.) What does it say that it isn&#x27;t already done, and that it wasn&#x27;t &quot;each MIT student will receive 0.2 BTC&quot; (or whatever a recent exchange would be for $100)?<p>There is probably more information available without having to contact those organizing it, and the article was written for media press-release ingestion, but I&#x27;m surprised to see no comments on these facets here (at the time of writing, and HN seems to be acting up a touch so I&#x27;ve been trying to submit for a bit after I wrote this).
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gesman大约 11 年前
I launched free Wordpress plugin allowing anyone to build online store that accepts bitcoins (along with dollars) for physical and digital goods:<p><a href="http://wordpress.org/plugins/bitcoin-payments-for-woocommerce/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;wordpress.org&#x2F;plugins&#x2F;bitcoin-payments-for-woocommerc...</a><p>Advantages:<p>- 100% proceeds goes to you (no middleman service).<p>- 100% secure and hack proof - impossible to lose bitcoins even if everything on your store is hacked. It utilizes Electrum Master Public Key logic that generates receive-only addresses without need of any private keys.<p>- 100% free (wordpress + WooCommerce + bitcoin plugin - all free)<p>With more people getting access to bitcoins - it&#x27;s the right time to offer it as a payment method as well.<p>Enjoy!
eliaskg大约 11 年前
This is great news for the community (and for the students)! I wonder if MIT is actively investing in coins or using pre-mined ones.
hessenwolf大约 11 年前
So, half a million dollars to raise the demand for bitcoin, while, as ever, the supply remains roughly the same.<p>Gosh, I wonder why governments like to maintain a flexible money supply?<p>I am not saying that that is the intention of the organisers. I am just postulating it as a thought experiment, on one of the downsides of having a fixed money supply.<p>Not that there are not also upsides. But there are also downsides.
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panon大约 11 年前
Prediction: Students will a) Buy drugs on the internet. b) Exchange for $ asap. c) Sit on it and probably forget&#x2F;lose it.
stevewilhelm大约 11 年前
&gt; a project to distribute $100 in bitcoin to every undergraduate student at MIT this fall.<p>They probably should have studied how habits are formed. $100 is not enough money to change people&#x27;s shopping behavior.<p>It will more likely provide the vast majority of the students a frustrating first impression of digital currencies.
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3pt14159大约 11 年前
When I first read the title I thought that MIT was going to set up a large mining project, partially as a research piece, and partially to counter balance the very large mining pools that are risking the 51% attack. Which I was very excited about.<p>This is cool too though.
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agalaria大约 11 年前
This will definitely help bitcoin to grow as more people get involved with it but it will also create lot of problems like black market will get attracted, stealing of coins will start. Yes, this move is required but everyone involved needs to careful.
tmalsburg2大约 11 年前
This initiative reminds us painfully that Bitcoin still hasn&#x27;t found its kill application (apart from Silk Road). If it had, they wouldn&#x27;t have to give away BTC for free but these MIT students would queue up to buy BTC.
ragis大约 11 年前
<a href="http://cryptocurrencylive.com/newest" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cryptocurrencylive.com&#x2F;newest</a><p>Crypto Currency Live is a social news and blog aggregator for Bitcoin, Altcoin and Crypto Currency Mining
bdcravens大约 11 年前
I wonder how many will turn around and blow it in 5 minutes on just-dice?
kolev大约 11 年前
I have a lot more than $100 in BTC and the only good use so far is speculation. With $500K, they should&#x27;ve funded a Bitcoin project hackathon instead and get some fruit at the end.
13throwaway大约 11 年前
This is a really good idea. Everyone knows everyone else has 100 more dollars in their pocket, and the smart kids will come up with business ideas to collet the bitcoins.
platz大约 11 年前
Will they be able to avoid the same fate that happened to auroracoin?
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marlin大约 11 年前
Students get 100$ each for silk road shopping, damn!
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jebblue大约 11 年前
MIT joins the Bitcoin Ponzi scheme.
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jonrimmer大约 11 年前
Can&#x27;t believe they didn&#x27;t call this &quot;MITcoin&quot;.