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The origin of “log in” (2011)

116 点作者 pguzmang大约 11 年前

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brc大约 11 年前
It&#x27;s quite amazing how many words (and phrases) in common usage are actually nautical terms.<p>For example...when was the last time you said: &#x27;Everything is above board&#x27;<p>&#x27;That company needs a bailout&#x27;<p>&#x27;A storm is coming, we better batten things down&#x27;<p>&#x27;Did someone just let the cat out of the bag?&#x27;<p>&#x27;We better clear the deck so we can start this new project&#x27;<p>&#x27;This project is doomed. We need to cut and run&#x27;<p>&#x27;My son is an excellent student. He passed his exam with flying colors&#x27;<p>&#x27;They successfully used a loop hole to get around the rules&#x27;<p>&#x27;You better toe the line&#x27; (usually mis-spelled as &#x27;tow the line&#x27; on the internet these days)<p>There are many, many more.<p>But then you have to remember, at one point in history, all things shipping and nautical <i>were</i> the high tech of its day, and for a long time period.<p>As for me, I&#x27;ll be giving any more phrases a <i>wide berth</i> and waiting until the <i>sun is over the yardarm</i> so I can pop a beer.
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philfreo大约 11 年前
Login is a noun (and adj). Log in is a verb.<p>So the right one to use depends somewhat on the context. It&#x27;s the &quot;login page&quot; but &quot;you need to log in&quot;. But it&#x27;s not super clear in all cases.
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ChuckMcM大约 11 年前
That&#x27;s a fun read. It is true that in time sharing systems the ability to attach an identity to things the mainframe was doing was a direct requirement of the accountants who wanted to distribute the cost of that machine to the users.
jeffbr13大约 11 年前
Like the author, I frequently get hung up on which of &quot;log in&quot;, &quot;sign in&quot;, or any of their variants is &#x27;more correct&#x27; every time I put together software with users.<p>&quot;Authenticate&quot; might be the most correct verb, although it&#x27;s not very user friendly?
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cynwoody大约 11 年前
It&#x27;s interesting that the 1964 CTSS manual† linked from the article (OCR&#x27;ed by Google††) uses &quot;login&quot;, one word, no blank. See page 6 (page 14 of the PDF).<p>I knew about ships&#x27; logs, but I didn&#x27;t know that the word &quot;log&quot; originated from the use of a wooden log tossed overboard attached to a knotted rope, so that the observed speed could be entered into a book that eventually came to be known as a ship&#x27;s log.<p>Also interesting in that manual is that each &quot;segment&quot; of a command (what we now call a token) was six characters, blank-padded. The 7094 had 36-bit words and 6-bit bytes.<p>†<a href="http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/mit/ctss/CTSS_ProgrammersGuide.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;bitsavers.trailing-edge.com&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;mit&#x2F;ctss&#x2F;CTSS_Program...</a><p>††<a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SapGOxkAdpwJ:www.bitsavers.org/pdf/mit/ctss/CTSS_ProgrammersGuide.pdf+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:SapGOxk...</a>
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jgrahamc大约 11 年前
My father used to use a system (IBM?) that required him to &#x27;track on&#x27; and &#x27;track off&#x27;. Anyone come across this?
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lnanek2大约 11 年前
Amusing that a techie assumed it was invented for computers and someone came along and corrected him that it was in use long before. Props for the author on acknowledging it with the edit at least, even if he didn&#x27;t correct his conclusion that it is an unnatural usage.
dlhavema大约 11 年前
I liked this, a pretty cool origin of a now common phrase we use. I liken it to the origin of the term Computer, the person who would compute the result of some mathematical function...
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JadeNB大约 11 年前
It&#x27;s interesting that this is the second recent article recounting the history of the term &#x27;logbook&#x27;, but in answer to a different puzzle: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7559141" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7559141</a>.
esquivalience大约 11 年前
Surprised it hasn&#x27;t come up in this thread already, but an excellent and free resource for this sort of thing is EtymOnline[0]. It&#x27;s volunteer-made[1], has an easy search and quick on-results-page answers.<p>Here&#x27;s the search page for Log: <a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=log" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.etymonline.com&#x2F;index.php?term=log</a><p>[0] <a href="http://www.etymonline.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.etymonline.com</a> [1] at least mostly - see <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2580631" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=2580631</a>
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coldcode大约 11 年前
I seem to remember some movie or TV show where it was &quot;jack in&quot;, sort of plugging yourself into a system. Not sure about the opposite version though.
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Theodores大约 11 年前
Personally I do not think that &#x27;log in&#x27; or &#x27;sign in&#x27; are really satisfactory. The phrases are &#x27;verbally skuomorphic&#x27;.<p>On the one hand you have &#x27;log in&#x27; and that conjures up images of a mainframe computer with blinking lights (or something left in a toilet bowl), then, on the other hand there is &#x27;sign in&#x27;, that is a bit namby-pamby and reminiscent of what you do when you sign in when visiting someone in some posh office building.<p>We need to introduce a new word, something that has no real-world metaphor, that combines all the delights that go with made-up-words-for-programming. Recursive backronyms are great, plus the English language needs a word that rhymes with orange. There could be some real meaning to the word, as in, once &#x27;[xxx]-ed in&#x27; then your communications are certified NSA proof. Any suggestions?<p>With the right word we can introduce it in the programming community and, from there, it could enter into the wider audience and get into the OED.<p>&#x27;Sign in&#x27; is a relatively new contrivance, does anyone know what the first website was to use that? How did <i>they</i> invent it and get others to follow their example?
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rlu大约 11 年前
I had always assumed it just came from the fact that something is literally logging the fact that you have logged in&#x2F;signed in&#x2F;starting using the service&#x2F;whatever.<p>Always seemed rational enough to me!
ASneakyFox大约 11 年前
i always pressumed the source of the phrase was due to being &quot;logged&quot; by the software. eg a user is &quot;logging on&quot; because he is literally going on the log. If you review the server logs youd see the user on (or in) the log.<p>the same kind of verbage is used in all similiar scenarios. you check in at a hotel for instance.. Check, sign, log, etc etc are all really just various words that roughly mean the same thing. Log just happens to be whats popular on the web.
autokad大约 11 年前
what rolls down stairs, alone or in pairs, rolls over yours neighbors dog?