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Studies: Blood from young mice reverses aging in old mice

84 点作者 mking大约 11 年前

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User9821大约 11 年前
How long would effects like this last? I mean, let&#x27;s say a bunch of children donated blood for the cause, and we used it to replace the blood of a senior citizen.<p>I don&#x27;t know how to phrase this properly, but how long does the blood maintain the youthful qualities? Do you constantly need new blood coming in from a young donor? Do you receive it once and you&#x27;re good for a week? A year?
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jdougan大约 11 年前
As foreshadowed by Heinlein in Methuselah&#x27;s Children...in 1958<p>&quot;Yes, yes,&quot; agreed Hardy. &quot;Naturally---but what is the basic process?&quot; &quot;It consists largely in replacing the entire blood tissue in an old person with new, young blood...&quot;
Tloewald大约 11 年前
So... Elizabeth Bathory might have been on the right track? (Howard Hughes for that matter.)
exratione大约 11 年前
You have to be very careful when you say &quot;reverses aging.&quot; That is a very different thing from &quot;reverses a couple of measurable aspects associated with aging.&quot; In the former case you are making an assertion that will immediately lead you to having to define the cause and mechanisms of aging and defend your point that it is, as a process, reversed - and the definition of aging is a contentious topic at the present time. But the press is lazy and in search of clicks, etc, etc.<p>The mainstream of the aging research community theorizes on the basis of mountainous evidence that aging is accumulated damage. What that damage consists of is pretty much settled, but there is a lot of argumentation over how it all hooks together, what is important, what is primary versus secondary, and how in detail it connects to visible pathologies of aging.<p>Outside that mainstream, the present day accepted heresy, in the sense that the minority population of heretics are engaged with rather than cast out of the cathedral, is that aging is an evolved genetic program. It is a selected adaptation and where there is damage that damage is a consequence of epigenetic changes, not the cause of them. There are factions within this heresy too, and a lot of argumentation. If you want to learn more, look for the hyperfunction theory of aging and related thoughts as representative of the field. [1]<p>The damage view of epigenetic and signaling changes in tissues that occur with aging is that these changes are reactions to damage. Altering them may lead to short term benefits and be worthy of use as treatments but that doesn&#x27;t do anything about the underlying damage - which will grow and kill you. In the case of stem cell decline with aging, this process is thought to be a cancer suppression mechanism, and thus forcing all the dormant stem cells back to work is going to mean cancer everywhere. Equally it may turn out that evolution has produced an overcompensation and some of the benefits of doing this might be effectively free. The fastest way to find out is to conduct animal studies in something other than mice (which are little cancer factories and have telomere dynamics that are very dissimilar to that of humans).<p>In contrast the programmed aging view is that reversing signaling and epigenetic changes is exactly reversal of aging, and is thus a great thing to be doing and we should be making full steam ahead on this front. I think they are wrong, and that the balance of evidence clearly points in the other direction, but as I said this is a heresy with enough advocates that they are not just ignored.<p>(Bizarrely, most of that portion of the mainstream who work towards enhancing longevity and slowing aging actually spend their time on potential treatments that make much more sense as goals for programmed aging enthusiasts. Look at sirtuin or calorie restriction mimetic work - all about altering protein levels and signals. All too few researchers take the sensible approach of looking for means of damage repair. But that&#x27;s a whole different topic. I blame regulation of medicine as a force steering research into marginal channels).<p>Anyway, on to the heterochronic parabiosis, which is what you call the linking of circulatory systems in two individuals, one old, one young. This has been used for some years as a way of studying what might be going on in old tissues, especially in connection with the decline in stem cell tissue maintenance activity that leads to organ dysfunction and death. The end goal is to figure out the differences and use that knowledge to produce the part of the complete map of the molecular biology of the progression of aging that covers tissue signaling - most researchers in the field have no declared interest in doing anything other than looking at what is going on.<p>Along the way, however, someone will produce prospective treatments based on identifying signals to stem cells involved in the choice between activity and quiescence. No-one is going to be shifting blood around as a basis for treatments between young and old when you can instead figure out what exactly it is in the blood that is causing changes - this is a change likely to occur in the stem cell transplant field also, in which much of the benefits seem to depend on the alteration of signals caused by the transplanted cells rather than any cell maintenance they are doing directly. Why sling cells around if you can just manufacture proteins that have the same beneficial effects?<p>One of the signals is apparently GDF11, which has been explored for a couple of years now. [2] It is interesting to see that it is more general than simply localized to heart tissue. Given the large number of quite different stem cell populations in the body it would be unexpected to find much in the way of commonality between the signaling systems that they use. Apparently there is some commonality after all. Though I wouldn&#x27;t hold out for much more. In general I&#x27;m expecting the exploration of cell signaling to be every bit as complicated as the hunt-and-peck approach taken to finding ways to interfere with cancer: a lot of proteins, different in most tissues.<p>[1]: <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3455862/" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC3455862&#x2F;</a><p>[2]: <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2013.04.015" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;dx.doi.org&#x2F;10.1016&#x2F;j.cell.2013.04.015</a>
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cpdean大约 11 年前
Details of the procedure: &quot;To do so, they joined rats in pairs by stitching together the skin on their flanks. After this procedure, called parabiosis, blood vessels grew and joined the rats’ circulatory systems. &quot;<p>So the old and new rats were basically sewn together.<p>If you want to see what this looks like, here&#x27;s a picture: <a href="http://www.viewzone.com/regen.miceduo.png" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.viewzone.com&#x2F;regen.miceduo.png</a>
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swayvil大约 11 年前
It&#x27;s long been known that replacing the blood of an elderly person with that of a youth will make the codger feel like a million bucks. It really does work and, if I were a wealthy old guy, I would definitely have a stable of donors on hand and get weekly treatments.
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hbbio大约 11 年前
It&#x27;s been known for centuries that drinking blood of young...<p>Oh wait, that was a movie :)
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pistle大约 11 年前
Tonight, we hunt. Tomorrow we bath in our re-found youth. It&#x27;s a good time to be past your prime.
scelerat大约 11 年前
This has been well-known in the vampire community for centuries.<p>[edit]<p>More seriously, wow time to start talking about the ethics of immortality.
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